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To: DittoJed2; RnMomof7; Winston Churchill; drstevej
1. T - Everyone's flippin' crazy and corrupt. 2. U - God's picks some for heaven and some for hell. 3. L - Then he died ONLY for the ones he picked. 4. I - Then he forced them on the busride to heaven. 5. P - And he ain't lettin' any of 'em off 'til they get there. Xzins, this part is not constructive but inflamatory. In order to improve the level of discourse (cause you know some Calvinist is gonna see this and say you're flippin' crazy and corrupt for writing it), try to avoid such language in the future. It is divisive, and it is a distortion, and it doesn't become you or add anything to your argument.

drj, you are pinged for a "read only" with no comment requested/expected.

What I wrote is a caricature of your position....it combines both the substance and the implications in a concrete, easily absorbed manner. This is an argumentation style that is frequently used throughout FR to INCLUDE the religious threads. Sarcasm is a major method of caricature, as well. The advantage of it is that it communicates readily....PRIMARILY with those who ALREADY are on your own side.

There is NO WAY to convince an opponent of the validity of your position in an argument (Dale Carnegie.) That happens at a private level.

Therefore, I am hoping to affect your subconscious with propaganda, Wesley-Arminianism's supporters with condensed, agreed upon descritives, and lurkers/undecideds with encapsulated slogans that come fairly close to describing the reality of the ideas.

"But when I'm angry, I'm just shoutin' out taunts"...LOL.

27 posted on 05/25/2002 9:46:01 PM PDT by xzins
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To: xzins;DittoJed2;rnmomof7
I concur with ditto on this one completely.

Good nite and a High Five to ya!

28 posted on 05/25/2002 9:54:48 PM PDT by drstevej
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