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Diverse viewpoints voiced in Chapel Hill NC (Reaction to Freepers E-Mails)
Raleigh News and Observer ^ | 9/29/01 | ANNE BLYTHE

Posted on 09/29/2001 9:45:48 AM PDT by mykdsmom

Internet brings spate of criticism for responses to terrorist attacks

Over the past two weeks Town Hall and campus offices have been besieged at Internet speed with an assault of adjectives describing Chapel Hill and its attitudes: "You lily- livered liberals," "politically correct, mush-brained morons" and "cowardly limp-wristed pantywaists," among the few fit for print. With its many free thinkers and voracious readers, this is a liberal-leaning college town that has long been a lightning rod for controversy.

In the wake of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks on U.S. soil and the subsequent response in Chapel Hill, the battery of criticism about Chapel Hill -- both oral and written -- has been voluminous and venomous.

"I do think it's different with the Internet now," Town Manager Cal Horton said.

Others agree. Pete MacDowell, an organizer of several peace rallies in Chapel Hill and executive director of Democracy South, said a description of one of his events on the Internet described him and others as "leftist radicals spewing hate."

"Here I thought I was an American all this time," he said.

The first lightning bolt of criticism was hurled after Chapel Hill officials ordered a downtown restaurateur and Persian Gulf war veteran to remove an oversize banner that read: "God Bless America; Woe To Our Enemies."

Town Council member Bill Strom, who led the effort for the banner's removal, said he was concerned about the "Woe To Our Enemies" message and how his elementary school-age son would perceive it.

But town officials cited the Chapel Hill sign ordinance to explain their stance, saying the banner was larger than rules permit.

Conservative webzine writers posted blistering anti-American spins on their accounts of the incident for all the Internet world to see. Radio talk-show hosts Rush Limbaugh and G. Gordon Liddy had a field day over the conservative airways bashing Chapel Hill officials.

Then professors at the University of North Carolina held a teach-in at which some panelists and participants advocated peace and nonviolence. Again an article was posted on the Internet.

In each case, e-mail links to town and university officials were just a key-punch away.

UNC-CH Chancellor James Moeser received at least 300 messages from all over the country and responded with stalwart support for freedom of expression and assembly.

The town manager's office received at least 1,500 messages. Most were from outside Chapel Hill, many from outside North Carolina.

"Morons like you abound in our society," said one message. " ... I didn't think they grew boys like you down south."

Others told Town Council members, or the "pinkos" and "commies" in Chapel Hill, to move to Afghanistan, Cuba, Russia, North Korea or some place far away.

"You politically correct mush-brained morons of America's left wing just cannot make a value judgment, even as simple as one about protecting our country," another electronic message read.

To council member Strom one man wrote, "I work in the Berkeley, California area ... you know ... 'Land of fruits and nuts.' Would you happen to be a UC Berkeley grad? Just curious."

Chapel Hill officials once considered making the town a safe haven for conscientious objectors of the Gulf war. They adopted the state's strictest gun control laws over vocal objections from the National Rifle Association. They were the first in the state to pass laws banning discrimination against gays, and they have spoken out against the death penalty.

Each action has elicited disparaging commentary from across the country.

Berkeley, Calif., often considered Chapel Hill's kindred spirit on the West Coast, has received similar attention. There was a recoiling when the fire department ordered the removal of large American flags that its trucks had been flying before a large peace rally.

It was safety concerns -- not opposition to the flag-waving fervor -- that prompted the decision, fire officials said. Conservative talk-show hosts and webzine writers made no distinction.

"Berkeley is sort of like the national whipping boy for conservative right-wing causes," said Reg Garcia, Berkeley's fire chief. "I think Chapel Hill is a university community and maybe a little out of step with the mainstream, too."

Since the death and destruction on Sept. 11, many Americans have pondered just what it means to be patriotic.

"This is a time of rarefied emotions," said Flicka Bateman, a Chapel Hill Town Council member. "People are in raw mode right now."

Some express their love of country by flying the flag, donating blood, pinning red, white and blue ribbons to clothing or buying American stocks. Others hallow the hard-fought-for rights, including the right to voice dissent.

Fuquay-Varina resident Debbie Biesack zapped off a letter of disbelief to The News & Observer after an item in the paper described an incident in which Republican state Rep. Bobby H. Barbee failed to act when he witnessed a peace demonstator being physically assaulted.

For her effort, she said she received a couple of phone calls questioning her protest of war. But nothing like the verbal assaults leveled at Chapel Hill and its residents.

"I think they ought to have a fence put around it and call them what they are," Sue Eaton of Raleigh said. "They're a bunch of socialists."

Sally Massengale has been in Chapel Hill for 20 years. She recently discovered what it's like to see the world through the town's political filter. She has been awakened by the many different voices she has heard since the violence two and a half weeks ago, she said.

"How precious it is to have so many different points of views," she said. "I'm hearing some things I agree with, some things that surprise me, even from my friends. But I listen."


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Thought you may be interested in seeing this related to your Freep of the Chapel Hill restaurant Top Of The Hill.

Go Freepers!

Original thread found here.

MKM

1 posted on 09/29/2001 9:45:48 AM PDT by mykdsmom
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To: Constitution Day, amundsen, RedBloodedAmerican, Mr.E, 2 Kool 2 Be 4-gotten, Intimidator, clamper1797
FYI!

MKM

2 posted on 09/29/2001 9:50:48 AM PDT by mykdsmom
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To: mykdsmom
Sounds like liberals' greatest enemy is rapid dissemination of information.
3 posted on 09/29/2001 9:50:50 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: NittanyLion
The Internet's Greatest Legacy.....they can no longer hide from us.

MKM

4 posted on 09/29/2001 9:52:04 AM PDT by mykdsmom
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To: mykdsmom
Here is a reply I recieved from Carolina, after I wrote them, about their very own * LIMP WRISTS*

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Thank you for sharing your concerns about recent events at Carolina that have occurred following our nation's tragedy on September 11th. You are among a number of people who have been letting me know how you feel, and I respect such an exchange. Let me share some facts to put the concerns you have expressed in context. Since the tragedy, we have done on this campus what Americans everywhere did: we mourned, we held memorial services and forums, we raised money for the families of those lost, and we tried to make sense of what happened.

The content of these public events has been balanced and offered a diversity of viewpoints about the current issues facing our nation and world.

The largest such event was a moving public remembrance service held September 12. Classes were suspended for two hours, and an estimated 10,000 students, faculty and staff attended.

Additional information is available at a special Web site created for news and announcements related to the tragedy:

www.unc.edu/news/gaz/response/.

I invite you to survey that site.

A university must be a place where faculty, students and staff discuss and debate issues of the day, and I will defend vigorously the rights of members of our community to free expression and assembly. That has been our legacy here at Carolina over our 208-year history. Members of our campus community often will have different viewpoints on the complex issues facing our nation and world, and I will support their right to express those views, whether I personally agree with them or not.

The kinds of wide-ranging discussions occurring right now on the Carolina campus mirror those taking place nationwide. In the context of the current national emergency, I believe it would be tragic if we lost sight of the importance of core values such as freedom of speech and assembly that made our nation great in the first place. Those are also the same values that created American public higher education in Chapel Hill when the nation's first state university was established here more than 200 years ago.

Respectfully,

James Moeser

Chancellor

Joy wrote: It was a shameful event that occurred there at your campus.Those people have no caring for the people murdered by the fanatics.All I can think of is SHAME SHAME SHAME.If they hate the USA so much they should move to Yemen, Somalia, or Apganistan

-- James Moeser, Chancellor

University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

103 South Building

CB#9100

Chapel Hill, NC 27599-9100

Office (919) 962-1365

Fax (919) 962-1647

5 posted on 09/29/2001 9:54:04 AM PDT by joyce11111
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To: Nuke'm Glowing, branch15_5, bhp1935, jern, KayEyeDoubleDee, Salvation, dstarr, Fearless Flyers,
YAY Freepers!

MKM

6 posted on 09/29/2001 10:05:02 AM PDT by mykdsmom
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To: mykdsmom
LOL!

Freep on!

7 posted on 09/29/2001 10:10:31 AM PDT by Salvation
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To: mykdsmom
"Personally, I found the language offensive," said council member Bill Strom. "I didn't find the 'God Bless America' offensive and appreciate everyone's show of unity. But the implied tone of 'woe to our enemies' is not the message I have been giving my child."

This knuckle head was elected at large just to represent his child?

8 posted on 09/29/2001 10:10:54 AM PDT by billhilly
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To: OLDWORD
You should be aware of the place of FreeRepublic in this. Although FR is below the radar (usually) of the lamestream media, it is, it is known on the Internet for its "FReeps," descending in person and by e-mail on all the centers of follishness and cowardice in the nation, whenever they make themselves known by their actions.

The vast majority of the e-mails that deluged Chapel Hill were produced by FReepers, using addresses that are posted on FR within seconds of the posting of any article. "Here are the people responsible for this outrage. Now, FReep them."

It seems to me that a couple of radio talk show hosts can gin up an e-mail message or two from the "Red Zone." They could even post the e-mail addresses of the target people on their website for their show. And it would probably be wise to suggest strongly that listeners be a) polite, b) non-profane, and c) have a short but central message to convey.

What do you think about that idea?

The (More er Less) Honorable Billybob,
cyberCongressman from Western Carolina

Click here for Billybob's latest, "Bush is DEAD Wrong.

Click here and go to "ALCU Watch" for "The Law of War," a detailed legal discussion of how the US declares war, both historically and in this instance.

9 posted on 09/29/2001 10:17:26 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob
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To: Congressman Billybob
And it would probably be wise to suggest strongly that listeners be a) polite, b) non-profane, and c) have a short but central message to convey. What do you think about that idea?

i think you’re exactly right. if we want to accomplish anything more than venting.

i have listened to liberal arguments and sometimes been persuaded to
take a deeper look into things... but not by ranting liberals of the DU
(bush is a moron) variety. a little civility can get a point across.

i’d guess that many e-mail rants were deleted without being read.

but, even at that, this freep sure woke them up, huh?

10 posted on 09/29/2001 10:32:53 AM PDT by glock rocks
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To: ALL
BUMP for FReepers!!

Here is a lame response that I recieved after dropping an email bomb on Reuters for their banning the wearing of the American Flag by their reporters and the use of the word Terrorist.



REUTERS POLICY REGARDING EDITORIAL POLICY




The loss of life and destruction in New York, Washington D.C. and Pennsylvania two weeks ago has affected Reuters and its employees deeply. Six of our own staff are missing, in addition to many colleagues and friends.

Throughout this difficult time we have strictly adhered to our 150-year-old tradition of factual, unbiased reporting and upheld our long-standing policy against the use of emotive terms, including the words 'terrorist' or 'freedom fighter'. We do not characterize the subjects of news stories but instead report their actions, identity and background.

As a global news organization, the world relies on our journalists to provide accurate accounts of events as they occur, wherever they occur, so that individuals, organizations and governments can make their own decisions based on the facts.

The integrity of those accounts -- and the safety of our journalists in hotspots around the world who provide them -- depend on our adherence to these long-held principles.



*************************
Nancy Bobrowitz
Senior Vice President, Corporate Communications
Reuters America Inc
nancy.bobrowitz@reuters.com

11 posted on 09/29/2001 11:16:30 AM PDT by Enemy Of The State
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To: mykdsmom
A pity some of these "peaceniks" couldn't have seen how truly PATRIOTIC this country was during WWII when a lot of us older farts were growing up.

Not only that but we, as kids, saw pictures of the horror of war. It strengthened us as Americans.

12 posted on 09/29/2001 11:23:35 AM PDT by Budge
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To: mykdsmom
pong
13 posted on 09/29/2001 8:54:58 PM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee
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To: mykdsmom, ncpastor, krb, Phantom Lord, Nuke'm Glowing, branch15_5, bhp1935, jern, KayEyeDoubleDee

(l-r) Constitution Day, Scott Maitland, mykdsmom at
Top of the Hill Restaurant & Brewery, Chapel Hill, NC
Saturday, September 22, 2001

15 posted on 10/01/2001 6:20:25 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: amundsen, Budge, Congressman Billybob, NittanyLion, Fester Chugabrew
See post 15 above for a pic of our Freep of Top of the Hill!
16 posted on 10/01/2001 6:23:30 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Darth Reagan, dei23, flwilliams, Coop, Salvation, BibChr, Elsie, RightOnline, Redbob, Jay W, Atticus
See post 15 above for a pic of our Freep of Top of the Hill!
17 posted on 10/01/2001 6:24:58 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: lonestar, Deadeye Division, honway, VOA, shuckmaster
See post 15 above for a picture of our Freep of Top of the Hill!
18 posted on 10/01/2001 6:25:57 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: NYC GOP Chick , billbears , Publius6961, kcvl, WIMom
See post 15 above for a picture of our Freep of Top of the Hill!
19 posted on 10/01/2001 6:26:48 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten , clamper1797, Intimidator, wireplay, putupon, thinking
See post 15 above for a picture of our Freep of Top of the Hill!
20 posted on 10/01/2001 6:27:31 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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