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Allegations that the COVID-19 Death Statistics are inflated?
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Posted on 04/02/2020 1:29:25 PM PDT by theDentist

A personal inquiry...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: anotherdamnedvanity; coronavanity; coronavirus
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To: mewzilla; caww
It looks like the CDC doesn't need explicit C virus diagnosis to list the C virus as the primary cause of death. If the number of deaths whose primary cause is listed as pneumonia is statistically significantly fewer this year than in recent years, how much might that contribute to the number of deaths listed as from the C virus?

The following in italics is from NCHS (National Center for Health Statistics), part of the CDC (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) website.

Should “COVID-19” be reported on the death certificate only with a confirmed test?

COVID-19 should be reported on the death certificate for all decedents where the disease caused or is assumed to have caused or contributed to death.

If the decedent had other chronic conditions such as COPD or asthma that may have also contributed, these conditions can be reported in Part II.

The bold face type is on the website. I find it very concerning that COVID-19 should be listed as the primary cause of death even if it is only "assumed ... to have contributed" to the death.

21 posted on 04/02/2020 2:12:22 PM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: theDentist

anyone interested in this subject.
should check out..Wikipedia—recent deaths.
and see that many people seem to be dying
from Covid, when I really think they are dying from...
AIDS, VD, drugs, suicide, etc


22 posted on 04/02/2020 2:17:23 PM PDT by RockyTx
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To: theDentist

Yes, they are inflated and BS.


23 posted on 04/02/2020 2:22:13 PM PDT by packrat35 (Pelosi is only on loan to the world from Satan. Hopefully he will soon want his baby killer back)
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To: theDentist

Not true. Cause of death is cause of death. If you get hit by a UPS truck, it doesn’t matter if you have Wuhan Flu


24 posted on 04/02/2020 2:23:24 PM PDT by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?)
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To: AppyPappy

There’s immediate. There’s underlying. Does one count, both? Is the protocol the same in all 50 states? And if it is, is it being adhered to, or are people screwing with the stats for their own ends?


25 posted on 04/02/2020 2:27:08 PM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: AppyPappy
Here's a story from Upstate NY...

Steuben County reports first COVID-19 death in the Twin Tiers

The attention-grabbing headline doesn't match the info contained in the first paragraph.

There needs to be clarity on this nationwide: what counts as death by WuFlu.

26 posted on 04/02/2020 2:30:24 PM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: theDentist

I see no one has come up with a good source yet.

But, everything that happens is part of a conspiracy these days.

Everything. Including your post, heh.


27 posted on 04/02/2020 2:31:10 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Epstein pulled a Carradine, the bozo.)
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To: theDentist

I know someone who died this week with stage 4 small cell carcinoma, and the authorities are trying to call it a Covid-19 death. She tested negative before and after death, but now they won’t release the body to the family until the coroner does an exam. They officially list it a possible covid-19 death.


28 posted on 04/02/2020 2:44:21 PM PDT by JohnKinAK
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To: theDentist

There’s articles on all sides of this.

Italy overreporting, Germany underreporting, Chine outright lying.

Problem is twofold.

1. Some countries have a vested interest in reporting low numbers to keep exports rolling while others are getting support from global authorities for having high numbers.

2. The way the virus kills is pneumonia or heart failure. Well did the virus cause the heart failure or was it the person’s preexisting condition.


29 posted on 04/02/2020 2:54:07 PM PDT by Alcibiades (I'm not tired of winning. More MAGA. More Mooch. More 5D chess. More covfefe)
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To: mewzilla

Actually, it does match. She died while hospitalized.


30 posted on 04/02/2020 3:00:44 PM PDT by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?)
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To: AppyPappy

... and that is the issue, that many deaths that should be listed as accident of cancer or whatever are being listed as secondary cause and the Virus as primary cause.

I’m just looking to see if there’s proof of these stories.


31 posted on 04/02/2020 3:03:50 PM PDT by theDentist ( qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: SaxxonWoods

Well now you’re just being paranoid Sax... but I understand what you are saying


32 posted on 04/02/2020 3:08:08 PM PDT by theDentist ( qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: theDentist

(face palm)


33 posted on 04/02/2020 3:19:51 PM PDT by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?)
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To: AppyPappy

Seems one of us is missing the other’s point.
Please clarify yours Appy.

PS, good to talk with you again


34 posted on 04/02/2020 3:22:17 PM PDT by theDentist ( qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: MrEdd
If deaths due to the Chinese Communist Bioweapon are being deflated where are the bodies? How are the corpses being hidden before they are seen?

They are hiding them in the hidden FEMA camps of course.

35 posted on 04/02/2020 3:34:17 PM PDT by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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To: theDentist

That if you don’t have proof of the contrary, assume the data is correct


36 posted on 04/02/2020 3:45:43 PM PDT by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?)
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To: AppyPappy

The headline suggests she died from COVID. The first paragraph states that she had COVID when she died.


37 posted on 04/02/2020 3:48:55 PM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: kenmcg

My friend’s father has been in the hospital for a while in his late 80s with lung cancer, on oxygen etc. He died last weekend, but they had tested him for the virus before he died. Haven’t gotten results yet, so the enhancement of the numbers may be true.


38 posted on 04/02/2020 3:49:00 PM PDT by dandiegirl (BOBBY)
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To: mewzilla

Yes. She had Covid and she died. Seems to be a pattern lately.


39 posted on 04/02/2020 3:51:55 PM PDT by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?)
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To: AppyPappy

We recently had 2 family members past away. For immediate cause of death both had failure to thrive listed. For underlying they had dementia.

Do both relatives count as dementia stats...?

Do you see where I’m going with this?


40 posted on 04/02/2020 3:57:37 PM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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