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1 posted on 10/17/2004 8:40:36 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: blam
In an Ancient Wreck, Clues to Seafaring Lives
by William J. Broad
March 27, 2001
from NYTimes
In Homer's epics, mariners tell of sailing far and wide across the Mediterranean, of braving fierce storms, of traveling for days on end with no land in sight. But modern scholars had doubts. Distrust about the actual routes grew with the discovery of numerous old wrecks in shallow waters. In time, the ancient sailors were viewed as hugging the coasts, mostly keeping in sight of land. The heroic tales were probably fabulous, many scholars argued, and the mariners more timid than their boasts. Now, the discovery of an ancient wreck in the middle of the Mediterranean is strengthening the old claims. The wreck site, some 200 miles from Cyprus and nearly two miles deep, has been tentatively dated as 2,300 years old; it lies amid a graveyard of similar hulks. Clearly Greek in origin, it is the deepest ancient ship ever discovered... The discovery team believes that the ship was a Hellenistic trader sailing between Rhodes and Alexandria, and that the clay jars were carrying wine. "This was a supertanker of the ancient world," said Brett A. Phaneuf of the Institute of Nautical Archaeology of Texas A&M University, who is helping analyze the find.
Hugged the coast my ass -- buncha modern landlubbers.

2 posted on 10/17/2004 8:45:18 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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Deep Sea Explorers Discover
Deepest Ancient Shipwreck Ever Found,
Four More Vessels Might Rest Nearby

Nauticos Press Release
February 20, 2001
In the spring of 1999, Nauticos searched for and found a missing Israeli submarine that disappeared 31 years ago. Its sonar equipment detected several mysterious objects some 10,000 feet below the surface. A state-of-the-art remotely operated vehicle revealed shipwrecks of tremendous historical and archeological significance. Detailed video and sonar imagery of one of the sites was sent to the Institute of Nautical Archeology at Texas A&M University. The shape of several amphorae - large, oval two-handled vases used for storage - confirmed the vessel dates back to the end of the third century, BC. At 10,000 feet, this makes it the deepest ancient shipwreck ever found. Another striking find is a cauldron that has been collecting sediment for more than 2000 years. A core sample of this sediment could hold secrets about changes in the Mediterranean Sea over the last two millennia.

3 posted on 10/17/2004 8:51:02 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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4 posted on 10/18/2004 10:14:16 AM PDT by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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>The discovery of a 2,300-year-old shipwreck between the classical trading centers of Rhodes and Alexandria ... At least six different types of wine amphoras have been identified ... there may be as many as 2,500 amphoras present at the site...

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He's Ness! Time-Cop Ness . . .

5 posted on 10/18/2004 10:22:53 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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7 posted on 06/23/2005 9:03:26 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (FR profiled updated Tuesday, May 10, 2005. Fewer graphics, faster loading.)
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8 posted on 04/12/2006 7:01:22 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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In an Ancient Wreck, Clues to Seafaring Lives
Source: New York Times
Published: 3/27/01 Author: WILLIAM J. BROAD
Posted on 03/27/2001 07:47:52 PST by Antiwar Republican
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9 posted on 10/04/2007 11:30:05 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Wednesday, September 27, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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10 posted on 10/04/2007 11:31:46 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Wednesday, September 27, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv
Let me get this straight.

This vessel sank far from shore, so we are to conclude that ancient mariners sailed such waters successfully?

Seems like it is better evidence of the contrary.

15 posted on 10/16/2019 1:55:44 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The ab PMove is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Let me get tbis straight.

This vessel sank far from shore, so we are to conclude that abcient mariners sailed such waters successcully?

Seems like it is better evidence of the contrary.


16 posted on 10/16/2019 1:56:01 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: SunkenCiv
This is what Donald and Melania Trump looked like in 2004, when this post was first made.

These days, they are a little older, a lot wiser and very much more powerful.


29 posted on 10/17/2019 3:27:48 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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