[freeandfreezing]

Lira was basically killed out of malice and spite.

Germs don't have malice or spite. But sometimes people get sick and die. Like Mr. Lira.

Trying to make him a martyr is foolish, but something Russians would do.

What about the anti-war protestors in Russian jails?

[sevlex]

“What about the anti-war protestors in Russian jails?”
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It’s a terrible thing for them.

The difference here is Lira was a US Citizen. Our so-called leaders left him to rot.

[Worldtraveler once upon a time]

--- "Trying to make him a martyr is foolish, but something Russians would do. What about the anti-war protestors in Russian jails?"

I have a BIG problem with all the protestors against war in jail around the world. To try to parse this into a pro-Z and anti-P game of dualism is cheap and dull-witted.

Your implication is as well.

[bimboeruption]

> Germs don’t have malice or spite. But sometimes people get sick and die. Like Mr. Lira.

Trying to make him a martyr is foolish, but something Russians would do.<

I had pneumonia a few years ago and spent 4 days in the hospital.

If I hadn’t been given antibiotics and oxygen, I would have died...just like Gonzalo.

He died from neglect.

I’m amazed daily by the utter stupidity and callousness of zeepers.