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Reminder: World War 1 started after the assassination of a European leader
FR ^ | May 17 | Me

Posted on 05/17/2024 8:21:41 PM PDT by RandFan

I always remember from history class that WW1 started for some sad reason (the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand). I always thought how stupid / futile it was considering what it led to.

Yet here we are with the Slovak PM assassination attempt.

Gavrilo Princip (Serbian Cyrillic: Гаврило Принцип, pronounced [ɡǎʋrilo prǐntsip]; 25 July 1894 – 28 April 1918) was a Bosnian Serb student who assassinated Archduke Franz Ferdinand, heir presumptive to the throne of Austria-Hungary, and his wife Sophie, Duchess von Hohenberg, in Sarajevo on 28 June 1914. The killing of the Archduke and his wife set off the July Crisis, a chain of events that within one month led to the outbreak of World War I.

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1 posted on 05/17/2024 8:21:41 PM PDT by RandFan
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It spread because of France’s Alliance with Russia.


2 posted on 05/17/2024 8:23:01 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: RandFan

That war was a fire looking for a spark. The assassination was an excuse, not the cause.


3 posted on 05/17/2024 8:26:48 PM PDT by laxcoach (The secret to happiness is a bait pen full of pinfish.)
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To: dfwgator

Not entirely. The stupidest human enterprise is shared to varying degrees by all parties.


4 posted on 05/17/2024 8:28:47 PM PDT by Salvavida
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To: dfwgator

There are some interesting if not different parallels often it’s something minor that sparks the wider conflict.

We better watch out because there is plenty going on is my point...


5 posted on 05/17/2024 8:29:15 PM PDT by RandFan
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Gavrilo Princip was the grease-ball punk who started in motion the events which led to the deaths over 100 million people. WWI begat WWII begat the Cold War, not to mention Communist Russia.

Princip looked like the kind of punk who you'd find smoking dope at the arcade with the other dirtball yardapes.

6 posted on 05/17/2024 8:29:51 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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And this from wiki p... The Sykes-Picot Agreement was a secret treaty between Britain and France signed on May 16, 1916, that divided the Ottoman Empire’s territories in the Arab Orient and Anatolia.

Oil oil not olive oil


7 posted on 05/17/2024 8:32:36 PM PDT by jcon40 (Leftists are usually obnoxious Bullies)
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To: RandFan

So it’s Russia and Belarus vs all of Europe?


8 posted on 05/17/2024 8:33:06 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

I agree but look where we are now as a comparison to that period

So much going on


9 posted on 05/17/2024 8:33:09 PM PDT by RandFan
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To: MinorityRepublican

Perhaps I fret too much


10 posted on 05/17/2024 8:35:51 PM PDT by RandFan
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To: RandFan

Well the French and British didn’t like the fact there was a new kid on the block when Germany united in 1871.


11 posted on 05/17/2024 8:37:31 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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German Chancellor Theobold Bethmann-Hollweg, when asked by Prince von Bulow how World War I began, replied,

“Oh, if we only knew.”

https://networks.h-net.org/group/28443/discussions/12889803/query-kennedy-guns-august-quote

VON BULOW: “At last, I said to him: ‘Well, tell me, at least, how it all happened.’ He (Bethmann-Hollweg) raised his long, thin arms to heaven and answered in a dull, exhausted voice: ‘Oh — if we only knew!’

In many later polemics on ‘war-guilt’ I have often wished it had been possible to produce a snapshot of Bethmann-Hollweg standing there at the moment he said those words.”


12 posted on 05/17/2024 8:49:46 PM PDT by Az Joe (Live free or die)
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To: RandFan

That is a very very simplistic explanation.


13 posted on 05/17/2024 8:55:21 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (Get out of the matrix and get a real life.)
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So it’s Russia and Belarus vs all of Europe?

Europe would be wise to avoid that war. Outside of Poland, I can't identify a single brigade or regiment in Europe that's ready to fight.

14 posted on 05/17/2024 8:59:37 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: RandFan

I had the same thought.


15 posted on 05/17/2024 9:00:35 PM PDT by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that almost all of big media is AGENDA-DRIVEN, not-truth driven.)
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Yeah, but Europe is not a rats nest of inbred royals these days. I think we are fine.


16 posted on 05/17/2024 9:04:13 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Don’t vote for anyone over 70 years old. Get rid of the geriatric politicians.)
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To: Vermont Lt

How do you explain Putin?


17 posted on 05/17/2024 9:18:13 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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I think one of the parallels with Germany after WWI, is that many Russians feel that the Soviet Union was “stabbed in the back”, in the same way that Hitler exploited the “stabbed in the back” sentiment in Germany after WWI.


18 posted on 05/17/2024 9:21:45 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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many Russians feel that the Soviet Union was “stabbed in the back”

I believe that if we voted for Bush 41 in 1992, he would have done more to help Russia in the aftermath of the collapse of the Soviet Union.

Therefore, no Putin today.

19 posted on 05/17/2024 9:26:54 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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Reagan advocated a Marshall Plan like program for Russia, I don’t think Bush would have done it.


20 posted on 05/17/2024 9:28:01 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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