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Kerry's New Vietnam Fix - Refugees of communist takeover won't forget, forgive his past(GOOD ONE)
Los Angeles Daily News ^ | 9/12/04 | Jan Golab

Posted on 09/12/2004 12:28:21 PM PDT by Mark

Kerry's new Vietnam fix Refugees of communist takeover won't forget, forgive his past

By Jan Golab

"If you want to be president, you have to talk to everybody in America, and that is what we are going to do," Sen. John Kerry declared last July, when he spoke before the NAACP. It was a dig against President George W. Bush, who had declined an invitation to speak to that organization.

But there's no way Kerry will ever speak to America's 1.2 million Vietnamese-Americans, most of whom live in California. Many of California's Vietnamese-Americans will be in Washington, D.C., today to join with Vietnam Veterans Against Kerry, Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and many thousands of other veterans in a nationwide protest.

Little Saigon, which straddles Garden Grove and Westminster in Orange County, is the largest Asian community outside of Asia. A Vietnam War memorial stands there, featuring a statue of a South Vietnamese and an American soldier, depicting U.S.-South Vietnam kinship. Some 70,000 Vietnamese-Americans live there, serving as an epicenter for the half-million Vietnamese-Americans who live in California.

When a Little Saigon store owner put a picture of Ho Chi Minh in his window in 1999, it triggered 50 days of large-scale demonstrations that made international news. "The anti-communist sentiment in this community is as strong, if not stronger, than anywhere in the world," says Garden Grove Police Chief Joseph Polisar. "The chances of John Kerry coming here are slim to none, and it probably would require a substantial police presence."

The Swift Boat Veterans have raised serious questions about Kerry's 1971 statements about American troops. Just as bad, however, were his naive statements about the enemy -- an issue that has largely been ignored by the media.

As a star of Vietnam Veterans Against the War, Kerry preached that the Vietnamese communists were not repressive totalitarians like the Soviets or Chinese. The Viet Cong were hippie rice farmers who just wanted to hold hands and sing "Kumbaya." They were the nice communists. America, meanwhile, was an imperialist oppressor.

Millions of boomers bought into this terrible lie.

Kerry lionized Ho Chi Minh, ignored Soviet support of the NVA and accused the U.S. of being "paranoid about the so-called communist monolith." Asked by a questioning senator in 1971 what would be the effects of an immediate U.S. withdrawal from South Vietnam, Kerry responded: "Having done what we have done to that country, we have an obligation to offer sanctuary to the perhaps 2,000, 3,000 people who might face political assassination or something else."

That same week, he appeared on the Dick Cavett show. "There'd be no interest on the part of the Vietnamese to start massacring people after the U.S. has pulled out," Kerry told Cavett.

To this day, Kerry has never disavowed or apologized for those statements. Kerry has never admitted how dead wrong he was.

As in 3 million dead.

After the U.S. withdrew from Saigon on April 30, 1975, 750,000 Vietnamese were forced into re-education camps. Many did not survive. Some 130,000 took to boats and 1 million more fled overland. Next door, the Khmer Rouge claimed 2 million lives in the Killing Fields. The plight of the boat people was an unspeakable nightmare.

Lac Nguyen, director of the nonprofit Vietnamese Community of Southern California, is typical of many Orange County refugees. He served in the South Vietnamese government and as an officer in the army. After the fall of Saigon, he spent three years in jail and labor camps, as did others in his family. His father and five uncles were all killed by the communists.

"I am one of the boat people," Nguyen says. "We don't feel happy with Mr. John Kerry. The majority of Vietnamese refugees here are survivors of communist oppression. We all have family members who were killed or spent years in prison. If John Kerry comes here, he will see our reaction. And he will see it elsewhere, in New York, Boston, Florida as well."

Van Tran, another refugee, is a Garden Grove councilman and GOP candidate for a California Assembly seat in this fall's election. He is expected to win that post, largely due to support from the Vietnamese community. "As far as the Vietnamese are concerned," says Tran, "John Kerry is in the same league with Jane Fonda and Tom Hayden. Actually, he's more dangerous because he's running for president. There is more than an attitude of nonsupport for Kerry. It's personal for them."

Kerry has never attempted to speak to a group of Vietnamese-Americans, says Tran. Nor has he ever apologized for the untrue statements he made during the war. Jane Fonda at least made a half-hearted apology, but not the new JFK. "He's too arrogant for that," says Tran. "Lobbyists have told me that talking to Kerry's staff on issues related to Vietnam, you might as well talk to ... the Vietnamese embassy."

Another refugee, Dan Tran (no relation to Van), is a NASA engineer and president of the Vietnam Human Rights Project and spokesman for Vietnamese Americans Against John Kerry. "We (Vietnamese-Americans) are all against the communists," says Tran, "while Mr. Kerry seems like he loves them for some reason."

VAAJK is planning numerous demonstrations against Kerry during the upcoming election campaign. Back in July, during the Democratic convention in Boston, it joined with the Vietnam Veterans Against Kerry and the Boston Vietnamese community in hosting a four-day conference on Vietnam, with seminars by experts in all areas of the conflict. It was, perhaps, the ultimate "Vietnam teach-in."

Dan Tran believes Kerry has underestimated the impact Vietnamese-Americans will have on the election. Half of our nation's 1.2 million Vietnamese-Americans live in California, a state widely considered not to be in play.

"Kerry doesn't believe there are enough in California to sway the vote," says Tran, who thinks differently, especially if Bush gets a boost in California from Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger. "I think Kerry and his campaign manager have made a very wrong assumption. Kerry went after the Cubans in Miami but he thinks the Vietnamese won't make a difference there. He's wrong. In 2000, only 500 votes made the difference. So the 20,000 Vietnamese-Americans in Florida can make the difference, as well as in other states like Arizona and New Mexico, where it's a very tight race." ==================================================

San Fernando Valley resident Jan Golab is author of "The Dark Side of the Force; A True Story of Corruption & Murder in the LAPD."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: asianvote; communism; election; fonda; hanoijohn; kerry; littlesaigon; protest; refugees; swiftvets; vaajk; vietnam; vietnameseamericans; vvajk
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Well, California is probably hopeless. The rest is very interesting.
1 posted on 09/12/2004 12:28:26 PM PDT by Mark
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To: Mark

"California is probably hopeless"

I was in Little Saigon yesterday and the Vietnamese-Americans are 100% behind W!

They remember, as do Viet Nam veterans, what Kerry did in 1971!



As you probably already know, almost 20 PERCENT of the registered voters in CA are Independents and those are the ones who turn elections.

We ejected the Dimwit Davis, so don't be surprise if the 'Rats stay home on November 2 and the Republicans and Independents don't turn out in masses to reelect W!!!


3 posted on 09/12/2004 12:38:06 PM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: Mark

1.2 million Viets are about 3%-4% of the state's population and possibly a higher percentage of registered voters (would make sense-immigrants who play by the rules are more likely to register than the average apathetic native). 11 mil CA voters cast ballots in 2000.

I'm beginning to understand why CA may be in play.

My Gray-Davis-over-Bill-Simon brother voted for Arnold. Don't know, but he may be leaning to W, and he's a pretty strong (but usually sensible) lib.

The Dems in CA appear (admittedly from a distance) to be as disorganized as they have been in a long time.

If the large core of uninvolveds don't hear a good reason to vote FOR Kerry, they won't be convinced to vote against Bush (just as in 1992, but this time it works in our favor).

NoKo making progress on nukes doesn't exactly help Kerry either.


4 posted on 09/12/2004 12:39:57 PM PDT by litany_of_lies
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To: Mark
Well, California is probably hopeless.

Don't count CA out. If you hear politics spoken here in LALALand, it is pro-Bush and anti-Kerry. I hear people praise President Bush while no one is speaking up for Kerry.

5 posted on 09/12/2004 12:40:26 PM PDT by UpInArms (Benedict Arnold was a war hero too.)
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To: Henchman

Was that really necessary? There is much traffic lurking since FR made the news again this week. Why the need to feed those who think all righties are bigots? Geesh.


6 posted on 09/12/2004 12:41:05 PM PDT by Bekki4Bush
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To: Mark
Whoever put Kerry's Vietnam service front and center at the Dem convention killed Kerry's campaign.

Did they not realize that there was still a lot of unresolved anger about Vietnam in the country?

Pride goes before the fall.

7 posted on 09/12/2004 12:41:07 PM PDT by sinkspur ("Can someone tell me where to find an ordained archpriest?"--Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: litany_of_lies

Oops-was referring to 1996, when Dole failed to have a good reason besides sleaze to oust Clinton, not 1992.


8 posted on 09/12/2004 12:41:59 PM PDT by litany_of_lies
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To: Mark

BTTT


9 posted on 09/12/2004 12:42:04 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: litany_of_lies

Oops-was referring to 1996, when Dole failed to have a good reason besides sleaze to oust Clinton, not 1992.


10 posted on 09/12/2004 12:42:08 PM PDT by litany_of_lies
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To: Bekki4Bush
Yeah, you're RIGHT, maybe I'm from the MSM duping them. My wife says the same thing though and that it doesn't become me nor is it reflective of the way I am. I take individuals for what they are. Besides, there are more of them than there are the one of me.

At any rate, more than cbs will do, "I APOLOGIZE" and thank you for calling it to my attention and furnishing me with the opportunity. I was being facetious. Sometimes it is lost.
11 posted on 09/12/2004 12:45:03 PM PDT by Henchman (I Hench, therefore I am!)
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To: Bekki4Bush
There is much traffic lurking since FR made the news again this week. Why the need to feed those who think all righties are bigots? Geesh.

It's contrary to Jim's posting rules too.

12 posted on 09/12/2004 12:45:35 PM PDT by RogueIsland
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To: Mark

Great find! Of all the people to ask about John Kerry, the Vietnamese-Americans are an excellent choice. I wonder how the Kerry campaign will respond to the Vietnamese-Americans? How will they impugn them as they have tried to impugn and slime the Swift Boat vets?

What is so amazing about all of this is that, when the war finally ended in the 70s, no one believed that we would be fighting it again more than 30 years later.


13 posted on 09/12/2004 12:49:41 PM PDT by DustyMoment (Repeal CFR NOW!!)
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To: Henchman

No Problem. Just want to avoid looking like crazies they have on DU :)
I wish everyone would respond so reasonably to constructive criticism meant.


14 posted on 09/12/2004 12:49:42 PM PDT by Bekki4Bush
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To: Henchman

Well, I used those terms while over there, but it was towards the enemy. It's sort of like the terms used towards the Japanese in WW II. Those times are over.


15 posted on 09/12/2004 12:49:42 PM PDT by Mark (Treason doth never prosper, for if it prosper, NONE DARE CALL IT TREASON.)
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To: Henchman

At any rate, more than cbs will do, "I APOLOGIZE"...



the correct term in Vietnames was, I believe "Chu Hoi!"

("open arms", "I surrender")

: ) really!


16 posted on 09/12/2004 12:51:01 PM PDT by JATO (Louis XIV said "I am the state." Dan Ranter said "There will BE NO INTERNAL INVESTIGATION, PERIOD.")
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To: Mark

Kerry has the blood of three million men, women and children on his head. THREE MILLION!!!

Kerry lied to Congress, the leftist Congress withdrew funds to South Vietnam, and three million died! That is Kerry's legacy to the world.

F*CK Kerry. The killing fields are filled with his victims.


17 posted on 09/12/2004 12:51:25 PM PDT by Dogbert41
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To: Dogbert41

Yes, but it's ONLY 3 million...mistakes were made.. let's move on. (/liberal Commie spin).


18 posted on 09/12/2004 12:53:47 PM PDT by Mark (Treason doth never prosper, for if it prosper, NONE DARE CALL IT TREASON.)
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To: JATO

I know, Kerry said that right after he was reporting for duty.


19 posted on 09/12/2004 12:55:34 PM PDT by Henchman (I Hench, therefore I am!)
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To: kellynla

I hope you and the other similar posters are correct. Thanks for raising my hopes.

The 4 month "Zippo warrior" may have a problem.


20 posted on 09/12/2004 12:56:42 PM PDT by Mark (Treason doth never prosper, for if it prosper, NONE DARE CALL IT TREASON.)
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