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Pictures of a vietnamese Re-Education Camp (Vietnam Human Rights Bill)
International Christian Concern ^ | 12/27/2004 | Montagnard Foundation

Posted on 12/27/2004 5:36:00 AM PST by miltonim

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To: judywillow
I've never been able to decide whether or not there was any ratinoal cause in Nam. I've seen interviews with South Vietnamese who claimed they were sharecroppers under the old regime with no possibility of owning land, that the VC split up and old plantatations and pretty much gave them the land that they'd been working forever, and that then the south (temporarily) retook the area and immediately gave all the land back to the absentee landlords.

It's called private property, and in our country it's protected by the Constitution at least it was. But the VC never really held much land, by the time the communists did hold significant areas of land, the VC were no more (basically they were no more after Tet '68). The VC did "tax" the peasants, (In the way the Danes or the Barbary pirates taxed folks) and if you didn't pay your taxes, they came in and killed you.

The "agrarian reformer" tall tale has been told by many a communist movement. Fidel's for instance. In the end, the state owns everything, and the peasants are then really sharecroppers, with no civil rights at all. Eventually the government makes such hash of things, everyone starves, either through mismanagement and corruption (See Cuba, Russia, N. Korea) or as deliberate policy (Ukraine, Georgia etc)

41 posted on 04/04/2005 9:03:32 PM PDT by El Gato (Activist Judges can twist the Constitution into anything they want ... or so they think.)
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To: YOUGOTIT
It is evident that the left has brain washed several people. The South Vietnamese left the country by the millions when the North took over and many ofthose remaining were placed in reeducation camps

Yes and not only supporters of the Southern goverment, but ex VC as well, after they figured out that their fraternal socialist brothers from the North did not have the interestes of the Southerners at heart, and after they say what the Northern bastards had in mind.

42 posted on 04/04/2005 9:15:30 PM PDT by El Gato (Activist Judges can twist the Constitution into anything they want ... or so they think.)
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To: miltonim; risk; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; bear11; Lexington Green; Tailgunner Joe; kahoutek; ...

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...Thirty years after the Fall of Saigon,

...and their true life 'PASSION of the Chirst' suffering began for those once Free South Vietnamese after we abandoned them on April 30, 1975...

...America finally gets to relive for themselves exactly what sacrifices they had to then suffer through.

...A stunning yet to be released Vietnamese-American Motion Picture titled:

.."JOURNEY from the FALL"

...was just previewed right where I grew up during the 1950's in the City of Garden Grove CA and then left from during the 1960's for the 1st Major Battles for Freedom of the Vietnam War.

Enter.. JOURNEY from the FALL ..in:

http://www.us.imdb.com


(NOTE: The pictures of a vietnamese communist re-education camp posted on this thread are scenes from this Motion Picture, for t'was I who was blessed to view today's most timely Motion Picture Preview right where I used to ride my Schwinn Bycycle around as a little boy)


GOD is Good.

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43 posted on 04/30/2005 9:21:09 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: Viet_Thuy
That is about the most stupid uneducated [piece I have read. I (me) personally talked to many of the Roman Catholic Vietnamese who fled south after the Communist took over the North. I did not find one who would want to live under the control of the non humans (Communist). There were somewhere between 3 to 5 million that fled Vietnam when the non humans took over and there has NEVER been a Communist regime that has allowed any other religion except for the worship of Stalin, the state or others of the devil breed.
44 posted on 05/01/2005 5:15:27 AM PDT by YOUGOTIT
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

Thanks for the ping!


45 posted on 05/01/2005 2:44:04 PM PDT by reformjoy
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To: YOUGOTIT
there has NEVER been a Communist regime that has allowed any other religion except for the worship of Stalin, the state or others of the devil breed.

LOL! You don't get out of the house much, do you?

46 posted on 05/01/2005 6:19:58 PM PDT by killjoy (Real Men Love Bush)
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To: killjoy

Name ONE!


47 posted on 05/02/2005 5:34:18 AM PDT by YOUGOTIT
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To: YOUGOTIT
Name ONE!

Laos.

48 posted on 05/02/2005 7:21:18 AM PDT by killjoy (Real Men Love Bush)
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To: killjoy

Since 1975 the communist government has not opposed Buddhism but rather has attempted to manipulate it to support political goals, and with some success. Just like the other Commie gov in the world they manipulate the religion to meet their state beliefs.


49 posted on 05/02/2005 8:16:03 AM PDT by YOUGOTIT
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To: YOUGOTIT
Since 1975 the communist government has not opposed Buddhism but rather has attempted to manipulate it to support political goals, and with some success. Just like the other Commie gov in the world they manipulate the religion to meet their state beliefs.

LOL. Ever been to Laos? Ever talk to any Monks there? Ever attend any religious ceremonies there? I have. The government has used religion to further some of their own goals, but has in no way prohibited religion from being freely practiced.

Of course everything is not perfect, far from it. For example, there are two sets of donation boxes at Temples. The 'main' donation box, which most foreigners will donate into, is collected and kept by the government. The smaller box, usually off to the side, is kept by the Monks and used by them. It is a hindrance, but they in no way prevent the monks, or common people, from going about their worshiping. It is a far cry from your statement about communist nations never allowing any religious worship.

50 posted on 05/02/2005 8:33:45 AM PDT by killjoy (Real Men Love Bush)
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To: killjoy
I stand by my statement. I have seen many Communist governments and if they are not totalitarian then they are not Communist. A Communist is a dictatorship period. If you want to live in a Communist government then go to Cuba.
51 posted on 05/02/2005 12:39:56 PM PDT by YOUGOTIT
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52 posted on 05/02/2005 12:43:22 PM PDT by JZelle
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To: YOUGOTIT
I stand by my statement. I have seen many Communist governments and if they are not totalitarian then they are not Communist. A Communist is a dictatorship period. If you want to live in a Communist government then go to Cuba.

I have good friends living under communism and totalitarian regimes. I know very well what those governments are all about. It is not pretty, but making up lies to further your distain doesn't do anyone any good and just cheapens your point. There are plenty of horror stories I can relate from friends in Laos and Burma, but none involve them being persecuted for their religious beliefs so you would probably not be interested in them.

53 posted on 05/02/2005 8:13:58 PM PDT by killjoy (Real Men Love Bush)
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To: miltonim

prayer bump


54 posted on 05/02/2005 8:15:02 PM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: Constantine XIII; JoeSixPack


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Thank you for your prayer Bump.


For...


LOVE is the Only Reality and...

GOD is LOVE.


LOVE ..is.. returning to VIETNAM.


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55 posted on 05/07/2005 9:07:48 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

Do you happen to know WHEN "Journey from the Fall" is supposed to be released? Thx~


56 posted on 05/15/2005 6:50:59 AM PDT by Ros42
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To: Ros42

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Thank you for asking.

I understand that the filmakers of "JOURNEY from the FALL" are still looking for a movie distributor, with a targeted 2005 movie release.

Sooner the better, I'd say.

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57 posted on 05/15/2005 7:51:21 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

Thank you! It will be one that I will definitely see.


58 posted on 05/15/2005 8:48:20 AM PDT by Ros42
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To: miltonim; Ros42

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Vietnam's war orphans set to return 3 years later (operation baby lift)

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1403483/posts

(See Post No. 3, 16 & 17)

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59 posted on 05/15/2005 12:15:33 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: miltonim; Ros42

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Ooop's, make that...


Vietnam's war orphans set to return ..30... years later (operation baby lift)

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1403483/posts


(See Post No. 3, 16 & 17)

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60 posted on 05/15/2005 12:43:42 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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