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The writer nails this one. I am amazed the "civil liberatarians" have no care whatsoever for how their efforts will hurt the American people as a whole.
1 posted on 01/01/2006 2:55:54 PM PST by SunSetSam
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To: SunSetSam

Lose and become Iran.


2 posted on 01/01/2006 2:58:42 PM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: SunSetSam

Welcome to FR.


3 posted on 01/01/2006 3:00:15 PM PST by StarCMC (Old Sarge is my hero...doing it right in Iraq! Vaya con Dios, Sarge.)
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To: SunSetSam

"I am amazed the "civil liberatarians" have no care whatsoever for how their efforts will hurt the American people as a whole."

Don't be. The ACLU crowd are a classic example of "the man that cut off his nose to spite his face."


4 posted on 01/01/2006 3:00:47 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: SunSetSam
Maybe when a few Liberals are at a cafe, and the sudden burst of light and fire erupts around them, will finally understand this one point. What good are civil liberties if YOU'RE DEAD!
7 posted on 01/01/2006 3:01:31 PM PST by mosquewatch.com ("The enemy is anyone who will get you killed, no matter what side they are on.")
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To: SunSetSam

You bet he nails it. There's not a supposition in this piece that I would disagree with it.


8 posted on 01/01/2006 3:03:12 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: SunSetSam
This is just another example of why there should have been a formal declaration of war after September 11, 2001.

Against whom?

Those on the “progressive” left have just begun mentally chewing on what for them is a gargantuan idea, that the military conflicts in Afghanistan and Iraq are but battles in a much more monumental war. Those who understand the danger facing our country have come to the realization that there are two major fronts in our struggle for survival; the physical front (locations of armed conflict) and the ideological front (where the battles for the mind of a society take place).

These are major battles in a larger war. Every time a terrorist is killed or a terrorist cell ripped apart, a minor skirmish is won. Yet the minor skirmish is a major battle to those specific combatants.

The writer nails this one. I am amazed the "civil liberatarians" have no care whatsoever for how their efforts will hurt the American people as a whole.

What makes you think they don't want the Islamists to win. What has the ACLU done in my lifetime (55 years) to suggest that they want the United States to exist as a going concern or exist at all, for that matter?

10 posted on 01/01/2006 3:08:58 PM PST by stevem
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To: SunSetSam
There Will Be No Civil Liberties If We Lose This War

Sure there will, as long as you convert to worshipping the moon god at a fever pitch, and you're not a woman or a small farm animal with your rear end exposed.

11 posted on 01/01/2006 3:09:59 PM PST by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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Great article, yet the author pretty much regards the left as loyal opposition. They are not. They share the same near term goal of the islamists, the military defeat of the US.

The end goal of the left after our defeat is the creation of a utopian socialist society. They will (ab)use our Constitution to get there.
14 posted on 01/01/2006 3:21:25 PM PST by Jacquerie (Democrats soil institutions)
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15 posted on 01/01/2006 3:22:23 PM PST by devolve (<-- (-in a manner reminiscent of Senator Gasbag F. Kohnman-)
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It needs to be repeated as many times as necessary until every single American acknowledges this supposition as a distinct possibility; should we lose this war against radical Islam and the terror it uses to breed fear and submission, our way of life, our government and our country, will cease to exist as we know it.

Apparently, they are winning in the sense that "our way of life" is that of an open and free society which is being slowly circumscribed. Or I guess we have to destroy liberal democracy in order to save it.

22 posted on 01/01/2006 3:35:11 PM PST by garbanzo (Government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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I reject the notion we must trade freedom for security. The 9/11 attack happened because our 2nd amendment rights were taken away. If the passengers on those planes had had the right to carry firearms, the terrorists would never have attempted to hijack them.


27 posted on 01/01/2006 3:40:11 PM PST by Dan Evans
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To: SunSetSam
There Will Be No Civil Liberties If We Lose This War

And apparently, there will be a lot fewer civil liberties if we win this war.

It is rare that "temporary measures" by governments ever get rolled back.

36 posted on 01/01/2006 4:02:59 PM PST by elkfersupper
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Lot of you people that work in the White House showing up here lately.


37 posted on 01/01/2006 4:03:16 PM PST by cynicom
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No surprises here. The Left actively supported Communism, which would have wiped out individual rights upon gaining power. That's because, in my opinion, the Left simply doesn't believe in individual rights at all. Group interests, certainly, starting with the "workers" and continuing through "minorities" and "women." The inevitable flow of history, yes. Their own destiny as the elites who will determine equality in society and establish a better world for "children and other living things." But individual rights? Not in their playbook. Now the Left tacitly supports terrorists because their interests are the same - the destruction of the "bourgeouis state" as exemplified by the United States. Once the destruction of the United States takes place, then the elites can take control here and deal with the disorganized and undergunned Islamists whose minds are clouded by the "opiate" of religion. Think of Lenin and his phrase "useful idiots." The great Leftist revolutions have one common thread - social and political chaos first, then a grab for control. Osama is their ally, so to speak. Not that they would admit it. Anything that leads to social decay will do - which is why so many Leftists pine away for a world ruined by global warming or environmental disaster. Like I said, no surprises here.


38 posted on 01/01/2006 4:07:18 PM PST by redpoll (redpoll)
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To: SunSetSam
And I detest cowardly Americans who are foolish enough to give up any of their liberties at all to government...under any pretext. What has government ever done throughout history to warrant such trust? How many peoples have fallen for the security over liberty argument only to find themselves in the grip of a government gone despotic.

In my lifetime my generation faced down a nuclear threat from a major world power without flinching or even surrendering as many civil liberties as we seem to want to against this non nation conglomeration of religious fanatics. This is a war without end...Big Brothers "Goldstein".

PT Barnum was right. We are a nation of suckers.

All members of the Court joined in rejecting the government's argument that the Bill of Rights simply did not apply in wartime. The majority opinion contains a somewhat rhetorical passage for which it is justly famous:

The Constitution of the United States is a law for rulers and people, equally in war and in peace, and covers with the shield of its protection all classes of men, at all times, and under all circumstances. No doctrine, involving more pernicious consequences, was ever invented by the wit of man than that any of its provisions can be suspended during any of the great exigencies of government. Such a doctrine leads directly to anarchy or despotism, but the theory of necessity on which it is based is false; for the government, within the Constitution, has all the powers granted to it, which are necessary to preserve its existence; as has been happily proved by the result of the great effort to throw off its just authority.
Supreme Court 1866

40 posted on 01/01/2006 4:18:34 PM PST by KDD (A wink is as good as a nod to a blind horse.)
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The left in the country would be satisfied with the sloppy seconds the Islamists leave if they are allowed the facade of power.


45 posted on 01/01/2006 4:35:07 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (Democrats value the privacy of terrorists higher than the lives of Americans.)
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To: SunSetSam
I am amazed the "civil liberatarians" have no care whatsoever for how their efforts will hurt the American people as a whole.

Do you honestly believe that the Islamo-fascists are capable of conquering the U.S.?

53 posted on 01/01/2006 4:58:10 PM PST by JTN ("We must win the War on Drugs by 2003." - Dennis Hastert, Feb. 25 1999)
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I'm new here so I'm not sure if I'm posting this to the right spot...

I don't believe that we have to give up our freedom in order to be more safe. First of all, I'm not afraid of a terrorist..I'm not afraid, and I refuse to change my life because of what someone may or may not do to me. In my view, that is letting them win. I just don't believe it's worth giving our freedom up for..Our president says that they hate us for our freedom, well why give them what they want, and make ourselves less free? Secondly, if you are afraid go into "protective custody" or go hide behind mommies skirt, because I don't want to give up my freedom because you're a chicken...I'm really confused about the changes my party is going through right now. I never thought I would witness the party I have always associated with courage and strengh wimp out like it is right now.
54 posted on 01/01/2006 5:20:53 PM PST by conservativehoney (I don't ask for handouts, so why should I handout to others??)
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59 posted on 01/01/2006 5:49:17 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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bump for later read


69 posted on 01/01/2006 6:10:04 PM PST by prairiebreeze (HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!)
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