MAN WHO SHOT POPE TO BE FREED

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[Brian Mosely]

MAN WHO SHOT POPE TO BE FREED

[Deb]

Can we still be mad at him for the man he succeeded in murdering?

[ArrogantBustard]

10 year sentence for murder(In Turkey), 20 year stint for attempted murder.(In Italy) Hmmm.

Hmmm, indeed!

[GAB-1955]

Post #13 has a point, but is it not one of the fundamental concepts of a free judiciary that punishment is not open-ended? If Agca has served his full sentence, then he must be released. This does not mean he does not require special watching, or restrictions on his civil liberties.

[Gondring]

How would you feel if he got out and then killed someone else?

What a terrible precedent it would set if we freed criminals based on whether the victim had forgiven them--that would just encourage intimidation of victims to free the convicted.

The reason he should be free is merely that he served his sentence.

[ducdriver]

Captain Ouever: "Joey, have you ever been to a Turkish prison?"

[hispanichoosier]

What a terrible precedent it would set if we freed criminals based on whether the victim had forgiven them

I agree. I didn't say that he should be freed. I merely commented on the supernatural connection between Agca and Pope John Paul II, along with his curious devotion to the Virgen of Fatima. While it's not unheard of for Muslims to honor the Virgin Mary, Agca's devotion seems remarkably strong.

[Lib_2_Con]

"How would you feel if he got out and then killed someone else?

What a terrible precedent it would set if we freed criminals based on whether the victim had forgiven them--that would just encourage intimidation of victims to free the convicted.

The reason he should be free is merely that he served his sentence."

Um that's how a good justice system works. A criminal serves his sentence. It has nothing to with whether the Pope forgives him or not, a fun fact which I care little about. It's about having a justice system that actually deals "justice", not "vengeance". I see alot of people on this thread calling for this man to be executed, or saying that letting him out will teach Muslims that it is OK to be terrorists, and frankly, those people are insane and paranoid, respectively. I have no love for this person, but if he served his sentence then he served his sentence. Period. People hate him and want him to be sent back to jail, but could you imagine if our justice system worked like that? You'd spend years in jail for drinking in public. As for turning radical Islamists towards terrorism, actually it would be teaching the world how to go about maintaining a justice system properly and responsibly. Jail sentences should not be arbitrary. They should not be at the mere whim of anyone who doesn't like the defendant. You know who had a justice system like that? Hitler. Now like I said, I don't care too much for the guy who shot the Pope, I don't like him at all, but to keep extending his sentence because people don't like him is pretty Hitler-esque, don't you think?

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Update:

Man Who Shot John Paul II May Face Trial ~ for allegedly dodging the draft .....

[Lib_2_Con]

Speaking of Hitler-esque! A draft!!!!

[attiladhun2]

Especially here in CA. 2nd degree murder will get you only about 10 years if you plea bargain. I think attempted murder might get you a hard nickel in this state.

[Zavien Doombringer]

It was a planned event... Think about it. A Professional assasin hitting him in the stomach, a horrible, but recoverable wound.

Assasins hit to kill, a head shot would have been easy...

NO, there is more to the story not being told.

Catholicism forgiving Muslim...Something is awry

[Zavien Doombringer]

Pope John Paul II wasn't murdered...

[Zavien Doombringer]

to finish last statement...
It's all that mattered, the other guy was really a nobody...

[sheik yerbouty]

But in 2012, the dire prediction falls out on Festivus!

[Reaganwuzthebest]

Notice how the thugs who shot the pope and Ronald Reagan will be freed but the criminal who shot John Lennon will be in jail for life.

Probably the reason they'll give for that is RR and the Pope lived while Lennon did not. It doesn't mean anything to me, everyone of them should have been given the death penalty.

[Deb]

Who was a "nobody"? The reporter he murdered? You're a moron.

[Zavien Doombringer]

yep, a moron...

[N. Beaujon]

I agree, reagan. Mark Chapman (who killed Lennon) was crazier than a loon but he never got off on insanity. As far as Hinkley, what he did to Brady, alone, should have left him in jail for life. Attempted murder is generally a life sentance. Finally, if you shoot the Pope, do you think you should ever see the light of day? Heck no. My point is that shooting a conservative seems to be forgiveable, shooting a left-wing icon...Not.

None of them ever should see the light of day in our lifetimes. Ya know?

[Reaganwuzthebest]

Finally, if you shoot the Pope, do you think you should ever see the light of day?

Or a president. Being found not guilty by reason of insanity does not mean they have to authorize furloughs for the idiot. Something doesn't seem right and it makes me wonder as well if the victim were a liberal icon would they be so lenient.

[N. Beaujon]

Being found not guilty by reason of insanity does not mean they have to authorize furloughs for the idiot. Something doesn't seem right and it makes me wonder as well if the victim were a liberal icon would they be so lenient.

Exactly, Reagan. There wouldn't even be a question of say, Mark David Chapman, convincing a liberal judiciary to let him go free. Further, no responsible Dr. would let him out because they'd know that the peace-loving fans of John Lennon would have him assassinated.