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The United States's long war
Mail & Guardian (South Africa) ^ | 15 February 2006 | Mail & Guardian

Posted on 02/15/2006 3:24:03 AM PST by Cornpone

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1 posted on 02/15/2006 3:24:04 AM PST by Cornpone
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To: Cornpone

"We realise that almost in all circumstances others will be able to do the job less expensively than we can because we tend to have a very cost-intensive force".

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Outsourcing the WOT?

Where's the Mexicans when you need them?


2 posted on 02/15/2006 3:26:17 AM PST by chasio649
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John; EBH; Chgogal; evad; American in Israel; Grut; Bombardier; CarrotAndStick; ...

Ping...

This is a low volume ping list. Freepmail me if you want on or off this list.


3 posted on 02/15/2006 3:26:57 AM PST by Cornpone (Who Dares Wins -- Defame Islam Today -- Tell the Truth About Mohammed)
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To: Cornpone
chairperson of the United States joint chiefs of staff

Chairperson?

4 posted on 02/15/2006 3:28:02 AM PST by peyton randolph (As long is it does me no harm, I don't care if one worships Elmer Fudd.)
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To: peyton randolph

Clinton and PC have hurt us in more ways than we can imagine.


5 posted on 02/15/2006 3:31:34 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: Cornpone; All
For a look at FR's past, see this old bump list:

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6 posted on 02/15/2006 3:32:20 AM PST by backhoe
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To: Cornpone
There must be some great air filters in the offices of the Mail&Guardian to keep the stench, that is So. Africa, away from their nostrils while they type.






7 posted on 02/15/2006 3:32:36 AM PST by G.Mason (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: Cornpone
Interesting evolution is the use of the Military.

Of course as in the Cold War this is fraught with difficulties and will todays potential allies be tomorrows potential enemies.

Questions raised are :

Will the regional allies be Democratic or dictatorships.

Will American troops find them self's shoring up unstable or dictatorial governments.

And will surgical strikes be enough will there be a need for more boots on the ground on a semi permanent occupation.

Is this the permanent war as envisaged by George Orwell in Big Brother.

8 posted on 02/15/2006 3:39:02 AM PST by tonycavanagh (We got plenty of doomsayers where are the truth sayers)
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"Is this the permanent war as envisaged by George Orwell in Big Brother?"

The history of mankind is nothing but the chronology of permanent war. That's what the liberals have never understood.

9 posted on 02/15/2006 3:42:52 AM PST by Cornpone (Who Dares Wins -- Defame Islam Today -- Tell the Truth About Mohammed)
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what is your take on this.

As I see it this is the most important thread on FreeRepublic it has had around 6 replies and not one has discussed the central issues, that this thread has raised.

It is leading America in a new more challenging direction.

Americans are going to learn more obscure foreign names for insurgents, towns countries politicians, they are going to get more involved in new and ancient conflicts.

The war on Terror is going global with new fronts going to be established on nearly every Continent.

10 posted on 02/15/2006 3:49:05 AM PST by tonycavanagh (We got plenty of doomsayers where are the truth sayers)
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FYI ping.


12 posted on 02/15/2006 3:58:09 AM PST by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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We are engaged in WWIII and the West's MSM (US and Europe) refuse to recognize this fact even though the horrible body count of innocents grows daily. It is no longer an ideological war in the conventional sense. It is a cultural war and religion is the central cultural thread of our greatest enemies. It is not a conventional war but a global insurgency led by Islam's fascist 'Brown Shirts'. Unconventional threats require innovative thinking. We will never have enough 'boots' to put on the territory of all those who harbor our enemies. We have to counter with our own guerilla strategy. Perhaps this is the beginning.
13 posted on 02/15/2006 3:59:08 AM PST by Cornpone (Who Dares Wins -- Defame Islam Today -- Tell the Truth About Mohammed)
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What's a low volume ping list?

The troop support list I just pinged has 283 FReepers on it.

I thought they should know what we might be in for if we don't keep praying.


14 posted on 02/15/2006 4:07:36 AM PST by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: Cornpone
This is not World War Three, its just a continuation of the left overs of the Cold War .

What we have is a series of terrorist and insurgency groups loosely affiliated to each other at the most.

The root cause of each insurgency is no different to those of the Communists.

Poverty lack of work being a major cause, the dissatisfied masses.

Islam rose because Communism died.

If the aim is to crush Islam then something else will is in its place.

As for countering with our guerrilla strategy. Where do you think the Drug Gangs in South America and the Far East and The drug warlords and Islamic groups got there training and taste for unconventional war in the first place.

The Cold War against the Soviet Union.

As I mentioned before who is to say that the groups we arm and train to fight the Islamic militants today may not be the enemy tomorrow.

Before we moved into Afghanistan and Iraq I stated on FR that it will lead to nation building in both countries because the nature of that war dictates it to be so.

I am prepared to wager a large sum that this will also lead to America being involved in Nation Building in other parts of the word.

As for fighting a gueriller war with out boots on the ground it could lead to that country falling as did those that bordered South Vietnam.

15 posted on 02/15/2006 4:14:46 AM PST by tonycavanagh (We got plenty of doomsayers where are the truth sayers)
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I am prepared to wager a large sum that this will also lead to America being involved in Nation Building in other parts of the word (sic).

And you think someone here is dumb enough to take that "bet"?

16 posted on 02/15/2006 4:18:08 AM PST by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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P.S. Communism is not dead.


17 posted on 02/15/2006 4:19:14 AM PST by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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"What's a low volume ping list?"

I was referring to my ping list. By low volume I mean I don't ping the people on my list very often...like maybe once a week or so.

18 posted on 02/15/2006 4:22:44 AM PST by Cornpone (Who Dares Wins -- Defame Islam Today -- Tell the Truth About Mohammed)
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The history of mankind is nothing but the chronology of permanent war.

While I would remove the word 'permanent'... I agree wholeheartedly.

American history textbooks were basically a chronology of our wars & conflicts... prior to the cataract of politically-correct socialism. One could go further and say that a perceived weakness or an open FEAR of conflict is the cause of most wars.

19 posted on 02/15/2006 4:23:37 AM PST by johnny7 (“Iuventus stultorum magister”)
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re :P.S. Communism is not dead.

I agree but it is at the moment as a rallying cry to the third world masses. Islam seems to have taken over.

It would be ironic is in defeating Islam we allowed Communism to reignite.

Nature abhors a vacuum.

20 posted on 02/15/2006 4:23:45 AM PST by tonycavanagh (We got plenty of doomsayers where are the truth sayers)
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