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To: Cornpone
This is not World War Three, its just a continuation of the left overs of the Cold War .

What we have is a series of terrorist and insurgency groups loosely affiliated to each other at the most.

The root cause of each insurgency is no different to those of the Communists.

Poverty lack of work being a major cause, the dissatisfied masses.

Islam rose because Communism died.

If the aim is to crush Islam then something else will is in its place.

As for countering with our guerrilla strategy. Where do you think the Drug Gangs in South America and the Far East and The drug warlords and Islamic groups got there training and taste for unconventional war in the first place.

The Cold War against the Soviet Union.

As I mentioned before who is to say that the groups we arm and train to fight the Islamic militants today may not be the enemy tomorrow.

Before we moved into Afghanistan and Iraq I stated on FR that it will lead to nation building in both countries because the nature of that war dictates it to be so.

I am prepared to wager a large sum that this will also lead to America being involved in Nation Building in other parts of the word.

As for fighting a gueriller war with out boots on the ground it could lead to that country falling as did those that bordered South Vietnam.

15 posted on 02/15/2006 4:14:46 AM PST by tonycavanagh (We got plenty of doomsayers where are the truth sayers)
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To: tonycavanagh
I am prepared to wager a large sum that this will also lead to America being involved in Nation Building in other parts of the word (sic).

And you think someone here is dumb enough to take that "bet"?

16 posted on 02/15/2006 4:18:08 AM PST by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: tonycavanagh

P.S. Communism is not dead.


17 posted on 02/15/2006 4:19:14 AM PST by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: tonycavanagh
"This is not World War Three, its just a continuation of the left overs of the Cold War . What we have is a series of terrorist and insurgency groups loosely affiliated to each other at the most. The root cause of each insurgency is no different to those of the Communists. Poverty lack of work being a major cause, the dissatisfied masses. Islam rose because Communism died.

Balderdash. The only similarity is that they are both idiologically driven. The two philsophies are totally at odds with on another. "It's all about being poor" is typical Euro-twit thinking. The biggest purveyors of Islamofascism are the very wealthy Saudis.

47 posted on 02/15/2006 5:10:37 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: tonycavanagh

>>>US commanders envisage a war unlimited in time and space against global Islamist extremism<<<

This line makes me nervous.

I would have felt better if he just used the word terrorist.

Are we just at war with Islam? Cause if we are, that means our government is also at war with us.

If we are in a serious war, then we need to be fighting the enemy within. Because they are the ones that enabled Islamic extremism.

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52 posted on 02/15/2006 5:22:56 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: tonycavanagh; patriciaruth
You might also want to consider this wonderful age of hi-tech communication is a factor in what the world is facing. It has caused even more of a division between industrial rich nations and the poor undeveloped countries as the latter's previously unprovoked citizens now want a piece of the pie along with power. I don't think communism is dead but enjoying a resurgence due to this. Groups that would have not even been aware of each other in the past are using the internet, cell phones, etc. to unite albeit loosely.

Thank you for the ping Patty. An interesting thread re our future as Americans.

62 posted on 02/15/2006 5:46:02 AM PST by daybreakcoming (May God bless those who enter the valley of the shadow of death so that we may see the light of day.)
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To: tonycavanagh
The root cause of each insurgency is no different to those of the Communists.

Poverty lack of work being a major cause, the dissatisfied masses.

If our government, for reasons known only to themselves, keeps flooding our country with illiterate & unskilled masses, the above description will apply to our nation as well, in a very short time. There is a limit as to what we can absorb before "the melting pot" boils over!

64 posted on 02/15/2006 5:49:14 AM PST by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: tonycavanagh
My take on this is that the west is being used as an external enemy to allow the Islamofascists to assert total control over Islam. At its heart, I believe terrorism is a religious battle between the different groups of Islam.

They goad us into making us respond whenever they need a new bogeyman to unite Islam. We certainly, and justifiably, respond.

By doping so, they hope to recreate the old Caliphate.

Only when they have established the new Caliphate will they then be in earnest against the West.

Osama was projecting when he said early after 9/11 that the West was guilty of a "Crusade" against Islam. What he really meant, was that he is mounting a reverse "crusade" against the West. This time, we do not send a mission to free Jerusalem, they send a mission to London and New York.

We as a nation between get used to the battle of ideas that must be expressed in more thane a ten second sound bite. We must seek to understand our enemies, which will require that we study them to save our own lives.

Then, we must learn to accept action, over reaction.

I dread the world we will leave our children if we do not take heed.
67 posted on 02/15/2006 5:51:44 AM PST by LachlanMinnesota (The real Churchill knew a blood thirsty gutter snipe when he saw one.)
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