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University to keep Vietnamese flag flying
UPI ^ | 05/01/06

Posted on 05/01/2006 6:56:31 PM PDT by nypokerface

ARLINGTON, Texas, May 1 (UPI) -- The University of Texas at Arlington says the flag of the Socialist Republic of Vietnam will stay in a hall where the countries of students are represented.

"The flags have nothing to do with the nations or the governments," a spokesman, Bob Wright, told the Fort Worth Star-Telegram. "They represent the students. We feel that we want to treat both groups equally. We really feel it is the American thing to do."

About 3,000 people, most of them Vietnamese-Americans, protested Sunday. They were joined by veterans of the Vietnam War.

Sunday was the 31st anniversary of the fall of Saigon, which marked the end of South Vietnam.

"It's more than a slap in the face," said Bill Laurie, who came from Mesa, Ariz., for the protest. "It's shoving you in the mud and spitting on you. It's not just a betrayal of us, and of the Vietnamese people, but of American principles."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: vietnam; vietnameseamericans
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1 posted on 05/01/2006 6:56:33 PM PDT by nypokerface
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To: nypokerface

Vietnamese immigrants are cool.


2 posted on 05/01/2006 6:57:33 PM PDT by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: Gordongekko909

Yep. And their flag is yellow with red stripes.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F


3 posted on 05/01/2006 6:58:33 PM PDT by Criminal Number 18F (Fighting Democrats, huh? Where the hell were they when I was fighting?)
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To: nypokerface

You will recall that when the Georgia Senate tried to honor Jane Fonda, one lone Senator stood and said NO. The honor stopped cold and was soundly defeated.

Now is a chance for the Texas Legislature to step up and demand this flag be removed from a state school. Do not honor a country that has never accounted for missing Americans and worked to kill 58,000 others. Only one member of the legislature can make it happen. The question is will it happen?


4 posted on 05/01/2006 7:00:03 PM PDT by armydawg1 (" America must win this war..." PVT Martin Treptow, KIA, WW1)
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To: nypokerface
"The flags have nothing to do with the nations or the governments,"

my brain hurts.

5 posted on 05/01/2006 7:00:53 PM PDT by steveo (Fathers Against Rude Television: You may already be a member)
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To: nypokerface
"The flags have nothing to do with the nations"

Then why exhibit them, you tool?

6 posted on 05/01/2006 7:08:49 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (What part of 'If you don't vote Republican, DemRats will control our country' don't you understand?)
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To: steveo

Well, let's analyze this with our politically correct minds:


1. We were on the "wrong" side of the Vietnam War, so it's ok to display the Vietnamese socialist flag, to show how "tolerant" we are and how we realize how wrong we were in Vietnam.

2. It's ok to display the rainbow flag because we're tolerant and accepting of homosexuals.

3. We couldn't ever show a Confederate flag because it might offend blacks.

4. Tearing down or burning a Vietnamese flag would offend certain people.

5. Tearing down or burning a rainbow flag would offend certain people.

6. We are told to be offended by the Confederate flag, so it's ok to tear down or burn that flag.


Not all flags are created equal. They mention "equality" of the flag of Vietnam, but we see some flags are more equal than others.


7 posted on 05/01/2006 7:10:33 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: nypokerface


Wondering if they have the stars and bars there, as well.


8 posted on 05/01/2006 7:10:40 PM PDT by Fido969 (It's all about ME)
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To: nypokerface

9 posted on 05/01/2006 7:14:18 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Contrary to those who say that United 93 was released too soon, I fear it was shown far too late.)
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To: nypokerface

Let 'em keep the loser's flag up.

This linked thread makes it clear that the Communist rulers of Vietnam now
are sitting around asking each other "Remind me, who won the war?"
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1622794/posts

Photo in reply 1 is great.

Myself, I just wish I had the Scotch (whiskey) monopoly for all the
decadent country clubs that Vietnam is now opening. (They realize that you gotta'
have a golf course to do big business deals)


10 posted on 05/01/2006 7:20:50 PM PDT by VOA
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To: nypokerface

Let 'em keep the loser's flag up.

This linked thread makes it clear that the Communist rulers of Vietnam now
are sitting around asking each other "Remind me, who won the war?"
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1622794/posts

Photo in reply 1 is great.

Myself, I just wish I had the Scotch (whiskey) monopoly for all the
decadent country clubs that Vietnam is now opening. (They realize that you gotta'
have a golf course to do big business deals)


11 posted on 05/01/2006 7:20:54 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Fido969
Why would they have the COnfederate flag? Does that represent a nation currently existing on Earth?

I don't quite understand the controversy here. This isn't a hall of flags of people we like, it's a display of flags of nations around the globe.

12 posted on 05/01/2006 7:34:14 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (What part of 'If you don't vote Republican, DemRats will control our country' don't you understand?)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Huh? What country does the Confederate flag represent?


13 posted on 05/01/2006 7:35:07 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (What part of 'If you don't vote Republican, DemRats will control our country' don't you understand?)
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To: nypokerface

This is silly. If we banned all imports from Vietnam, you couldn't fill a single Kohl's, WalMart or Target department store.


14 posted on 05/01/2006 7:42:03 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Darkwolf377
Who said that the flag must only represent a country? Would the Taiwanese flag be there even those the red Chinese would say that their flag covers the people on the island? I'll argue that the Confederate flag represents a people. Secondly, I would think that their sentiment of "inclusiveness" would stop at including the confederate flag because of what they would say it represents.

And that is the point that everyone is trying to make here.

15 posted on 05/01/2006 7:45:07 PM PDT by Fido969 (It's all about ME)
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To: Fido969
Who said that the flag must only represent a country? Would the Taiwanese flag be there even those the red Chinese would say that their flag covers the people on the island? I'll argue that the Confederate flag represents a people. Secondly, I would think that their sentiment of "inclusiveness" would stop at including the confederate flag because of what they would say it represents. And that is the point that everyone is trying to make here.

What does any of that have to do with this specific situation? Are other flags in this location representing failed insurrections in other countries?

You've completely sidestepped the question of why a Confederate flag should be displayed in a place that only shows flags of current nations on Earth.

The Confederate flag doesn't represent this country. I couldn't care less that some think it does--it doesn't. The same people who romanticize the COnfederate flag want black to get over slavery and immigrants to put no other flag above the Stars and Stripes.

We're one country now--get the hell over it, already.

16 posted on 05/01/2006 7:52:49 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (What part of 'If you don't vote Republican, DemRats will control our country' don't you understand?)
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You not only miss the point, you set arbetrary rules.


17 posted on 05/01/2006 8:02:00 PM PDT by Fido969 (It's all about ME)
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To: Darkwolf377
This isn't a hall of flags of people we like, it's a display of flags of nations around the globe.

No, it's a display of flags of the countries of origin of students at the school. Most of the ethnically Vietnamese there will have been born in the US, but their parents will have come from the Republic of Vietnam, not the Peoples Republic of Vietnam. Those parents came here fleeing the soldiers (and worse the commissars and reeducation camps) of the nation represented by the flag that UTA insists represents their "homeland". I'd be damned offended too. In fact, I am.

18 posted on 05/01/2006 8:50:45 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: Fido969
You not only miss the point, you set arbetrary rules.

I'd ask for an explanation of your point, but frankly, I don't care.

19 posted on 05/01/2006 9:06:20 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (What part of 'If you don't vote Republican, DemRats will control our country' don't you understand?)
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To: El Gato
No, it's a display of flags of the countries of origin of students at the school. Most of the ethnically Vietnamese there will have been born in the US, but their parents will have come from the Republic of Vietnam, not the Peoples Republic of Vietnam. Those parents came here fleeing the soldiers (and worse the commissars and reeducation camps) of the nation represented by the flag that UTA insists represents their "homeland". I'd be damned offended too. In fact, I am.

Thanks for the clarification. But the flags ARE representing nations around the globe, not former "nations" such as the Confederacy, which was my limited point in that sentence. But your explanation could have and should have been represented in the printed article, and I wish the writer did so for clarity's sake--it's not a small issue.

20 posted on 05/01/2006 9:08:33 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (What part of 'If you don't vote Republican, DemRats will control our country' don't you understand?)
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