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Is James Baker repeating Carter's stupidity with Khomeini?


2 posted on 01/30/2007 12:09:34 AM PST by FARS
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To: FARS

Appears that way.


3 posted on 01/30/2007 12:14:57 AM PST by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: FARS

I wonder what/how the Saudi link will turn up to be?

Thanks for the ping.


4 posted on 01/30/2007 12:18:55 AM PST by Tainan (Talk is cheap. Silence is golden. All I got is brass...lotsa brass.)
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To: FARS
That was a different man, different time, and such = a similar but wrong caparison.

I say that it cant hurt.

Wolf
6 posted on 01/30/2007 12:19:19 AM PST by RunningWolf (2-1 Cav 1975)
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To: FARS

Stunning.


7 posted on 01/30/2007 12:21:36 AM PST by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: FARS
Is James Baker repeating Carter's stupidity with Khomeini?

Certainly looks that way.

13 posted on 01/30/2007 1:08:35 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: FARS

Baker is an idiot.


16 posted on 01/30/2007 2:17:47 AM PST by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty: The Pendleton 8...down to 2...GWB, we hardly knew ye...)
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To: FARS

Baker is a moron just like Carter


17 posted on 01/30/2007 2:26:34 AM PST by freedom44
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To: FARS
Is James Baker repeating Carter's stupidity with Khomeini?

As recently as two years ago Bush I has touted the Madrid/Oslo process as one of the great accomplishments of his Presidency. The man who resurrected Arafat from exile in Libya to lead the palestinian people doesn't need to emulate Carters stupidity, he's got plenty of his own.

28 posted on 01/30/2007 4:59:46 AM PST by SJackson (Let a thousand flowers bloom and let all our rifles be aimed at the occupation, Abu Mazen 1/11/07)
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To: FARS

My guess is that it is related to this snippet of an article that I read earlier tonight:

The Anti-War Movement

The United States has a growing antiwar movement. If one looks under the ‘covers’ we find that that this movement had its origins in the Leftist/Marxist - Islamist Alliance following the Gulf War of 2003.

Today, U.S. military deserters are going to Canada where a small group is growing. Once across the border, a network of Vietnam War-era draft evaders meets them, Quakers and anti-war activists, who are waiting with lawyers, free housing, job offers and organic groceries.

A described in Islamic Economics and the Final Jihad – The Muslim Brotherhood to the Leftist/Marxist-Islamist Alliance, on December 13 and 14, 2003, activist delegates from the West and the Middle East joined at a conference in Cairo to exchange ideas and debate plans for actions. The second Cairo Conference against Capitalist Globalization and U.S. Hegemony brought together anti-war activists from across the world. The conference discussed how best to support the Iraqi and Palestinian resistance movements and how to challenge the United States’ drive for power. (The third Cairo Conference took place March 24 to 27, 2005, sponsored by the Stop-the-War Coalition.)

As the news of Saddam Hussein’s capture spread, delegates reaffirmed their support for the Iraqi resistance to continue against the U.S. occupation. Hamdeen Sabahy, an Egyptian M.P., said, “The resistance in Iraq is not based on Saddam Hussein. It will continue after Saddam Hussein. It is there because there is an occupation. As long as there is an American occupation, there will be resistance.”

This was much bigger than the 2002 conference, attended by four hundred people. Left-wing groups, Arab nationalist groups, and the Muslim Brotherhood organized the conference. It was supported by a number of trade unions.

In the opening session, John Rees from the Stop-the-War Coalition in Britain received loud applause when he said: “We stopped George Bush from launching his re-election campaign in London last month. Hundreds of thousands of ordinary people poured onto the streets. People have come from Britain in solidarity with you. This is not merely because we sympathize with your struggle, and that of Iraq and Palestine. We come because your struggle is our struggle; your enemy is our enemy. In the last year we have created an international mass movement. We will not let the rule of profit and arms destroy our world. Only ordinary people can stop the political elites.”

The chemistry between the conference’s left wing and Islamic currents was a revelation to many. Making a rare appearance in such a socialist-oriented gathering, Ma’moun El- Hodeibi, the outlawed Muslim Brotherhood’s supreme guide, spoke at the opening session. Slamming “the authoritative imperialist and aggressive capitalist systems,” Hodeibi hailed the “new [anti-globalization] global movement.”

Since this conference the Muslim Brotherhood achieved significant victories in Egypt through the election process.

Stop-the-War’s Yakoub described the anti-war movement as a “bridge between East and West. From Cairo to Birmingham, Muslim and Jew, we have more in common than we have differences, and it’s unity that gives us the potential to be the other superpower.” British M.P., George Galloway called the conference itself a bridge between East and West. “Across the bridge, in two-way traffic, should come experience and support. We learn from here and here will learn from us.”

Sona’ Allh Ibrahim, a famous Egyptian writer who turned down a major award recently in protest at the Egyptian government, also addressed the conference. Other speakers included former Labour M.P. Tony Benn, former United Nation’s humanitarian coordinator for Iraq Denis Halliday, Salma Yaqoob from Britain and Ramsey Clark, former U.S. attorney general. The Leftist/Marxist - Islamist Alliance was in full attendance.

The conference released the second Cairo declaration, calling for opposition to capitalist globalization and U.S. power. It also urged support for the Iraqi resistance and the Palestinian intifada against Israeli occupation.

Ashraf El Bayoumi was one of the organizers. He is a campaigner based in Egypt who was arrested recently for joining an anti-war protest. He spoke to Socialist Workers about the importance of the event. The conference came from the belief that imperialist globalization must be met with people’s mobilization. The people who attended the conference in 2002, especially those who were invited to speak, gave an anti-imperialist flavor to the conference. There were some professors and academics who were irritated by the injustice in Iraq and Palestine, such as Thomas Nagy, a professor at George Washington University.

The Al-Ahram Weekly gave a picture of the events of the third international Cairo Anti-War Conference held March 24-27, 2005.

Perhaps it was not totally ironic that the third international Cairo Anti-War Conference ended on the same day that dozens of members of the outlawed Muslim Brotherhood were arrested for organizing a peaceful protest calling for constitutional reforms and the lifting of Egypt's 24-year-old state of emergency. For four days, almost 1,000 Egyptian, Arab and international activists representing anti-war and anti- globalization movements, had been arguing that the liberation of Palestine and Iraq should start with changing undemocratic regimes in the Arab world.

Activists from Islamist, secular, communist and socialist currents from across the globe sat together sharing their views, and absorbed in friendly conversation.

According to comparative literature professor, Abdel-Wahab El-Missiri, the author of many works on Zionism and Jewish thought, globalization is no more than a U.S. dynamic for hegemony. “Globalization reduces people into consumptive beings with no identity or history,” El-Missiri told the Weekly. “It is no wonder that the proponents of globalization are also those who invaded Pakistan and Iraq, and blindly support the Israeli occupation of Palestine.”

That rhetoric provided a new dimension to resistance in Iraq and Palestine as “the front-line” of fighting against imperialism and globalization.

According to John Rose, author of Myths of Zionism, “the Palestinian flag has come to symbolize the dispossession of the poor peoples of the world.”

“The flag adorns the great anti-globalization and anti-war mass demonstrations on every continent,” Rose said.

The general mood of the conference was one of defiance, where passionate speeches inspired a general spirit of hope and enthusiasm. John Rees, from the U.K.-based Stop-the-War Coalition, boasted of the fact that the global anti-war movement had forced many countries, including Holland, Poland, Hungary and Spain—and perhaps now Italy—to withdraw their troops from Iraq.

But there was also general consensus that resistance was the only way to liberate Palestine and Iraq. Most delegates seemed to share Galloway’s opinion that U.S. troops in Iraq would be destroyed between “the hammer of the anti-war movement and the anvil of resistance.”

Sheikh Hassan al-Zorqani, of the Sadri Shia resistance movement in Iraq, told the Weekly that the Iraqi resistance “still has a long way to go before it liberates Iraq.” He expressed enthusiasm, however, that the conference gives him “a platform to clear misconceptions about resistance.”

The conference again demonstrated the Leftist/Marxist - Islamist Alliance.


http://globalpolitician.com/articledes.asp?ID=2030&cid=2&sid=2


34 posted on 01/30/2007 5:55:36 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny (Pray for peace, but prepare for the worst disaster. Protect your loved ones.)
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To: FARS

Take up the dumb-ass burden
And join with the
Appeasement breed
They'll show them oil
And leave them soiled
Defiled by their greed



36 posted on 01/30/2007 6:56:24 AM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: FARS

Take up the dumb-ass burden
And join with the
Appeasement breed
They'll show them oil
And leave them soiled
Defiled by their greed



37 posted on 01/30/2007 6:56:28 AM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: FARS

And where was Khomeini hiding? France, see the connection?


38 posted on 01/30/2007 8:01:01 AM PST by Sword_Svalbardt (Sword Svalbardt)
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To: FARS

Thanks for the ping!


39 posted on 01/30/2007 8:07:19 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: FARS

Baker's shilling for the Saudis'


45 posted on 01/30/2007 2:28:28 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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