[TommyDale]

Rudy is an expert on VietNam, that is why he avoided the draft.

[Retired Greyhound]

we did not lose one battle in Vietnam, and we would have steamrolled Ho Chi Minh City if our leaders had had any huevos.

We lost the war here at home.

[HitmanLV]

Spoken like a true Freeper!

[VOA]

Giuliani: Vietnam Was a Victory (Foreign Affairs Magazine)

Actually, that's a brave (and maybe not the smartest) thing for
Giuliani to say if he is really running for President.

Brave, because it's true. (Vietnam is setting up banks and country
clubs and generally commercializing. Some Communist victory!)
Not smart becuase he has burned bridges with virtually any Democrats that
might vote for him.

[onedoug]

I'll go a little further and claim that will have won the Vietnam War if we win the War On Terror.

Two trips to Vietnam - in '68-69 then with my daughter in 2000 - convince me that this is true. Vietnam's economy and the explosive growth of Christianity there are thriving. It's aging communist leadership is increasingly being squeezed in the face of Vietnam's amazingly industrious populace.

Of course, if we don't win the WOT, all bets are off, because nothing will matter anymore anyway.

In the meantime however, if you think you must buy Chinese, consider the Vietnamese alternative first.

[what's up]

Almost all politicians utter only platitudes about Vietnam.

These are extremely refreshing remarks by Giuliani.

[Thrownatbirth]

Strategically, the Vietnam War prevented Soviet expansionists from securing territory and warm-water ports in Southeast Asia. No expansion meant no new revenue. The war also drained billions of rubles from the Soviet economy needed to support North Vietnam.

Without Vietnam, we probably would still be dealing with the Soviet Union today. Glad I could help when I did.

[goldstategop]

Vietnam WAS a victory. It was the Democrats who turned it into a defeat for America. Four decades later, Vietnam is indeed their template on what they would like to make happen in Iraq. Its that damned Bush who stands in the way of histoire redux.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[Clemenza]

"Vietnam was a victory" is something I used to hear back in the 80s, when it seemed like every homeless guy claimed to be a veteran and their was an upsurge in boomer guys in general claiming to be vets and "speaking for" the Vietnam vet community.

The politicians lost Vietnam by waging a half-assed "police action" under McNamara, Bundy, and LBJ, and then cutting funding for our South Vietnamese allies in the early 70s, just when things were turning around.

[Billthedrill]

Depends on what "victory" is supposed to look like, I guess. The problem with limited wars is that this is something that is fairly arbitrary and subject to declaration on the part of persons who weren't even there. Iraq will be the same no matter how it turns out.

North Vietnam achieved its principal strategic objective in that it took over the South. The U.S. achieved its principal strategic objective in delaying and minimizing communist revolution in Southeast Asia. Ultimately I think that Vietnam will be both united and free. Only then will the war really be over. IMHO.

[Grut]

Vietnam was a victory only if our policy was to see a unified communist Vietnam. I don't recall that it was. I do recall that it was the other side's policy, which means it was a victory for them and a loss for us.

Sorry to belabor the obvious but we lost and no amount of historical revisionism is going to change that.

[donozark]

I once said," A draft-dodging, whore-monger from nowhere Arkansas will never be President of the USA!" The year was 1992. What the hell do I know about politics?

My problem with Rudy is not so much VN, but rather his virulent anti-RKBA positions over the years.

If Rudy is serious about becoming the Republican nominee then he needs to have a come-to-Jesus meeting with the NRA/GOA/SAF and other pro-RKBA orgs. And soon Rudy...very soon.

[ishabibble]

Here’s one guy who knows for sure how we won in Vietnam.
Lucky for him, we were hanging on Walter Cronkite’s every last lying word.

http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/Camp/7624/Generals/giap.htm

[Bigun]

I find not much with which to argue in this statement of Rudy's.

Our failures in Vietnam were political failures not military ones. In fact, if we could have gotten the politicians out of the way, we could have had the war won in any six month period you care to name between November 1965 and December of 1072.

[Bigun]

I find not much with which to argue in this statement of Rudy's.

Our failures in Vietnam were political failures not military ones. In fact, if we could have gotten the politicians out of the way, we could have had the war won in any six month period you care to name between November 1965 and December of 1972.

[Clintonfatigued]

This is a surprising interview.

[ALOHA RONNIE]

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NEVER FORGET
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After Sen TED KENNEDY pushed a post-WATERGATE Democrat Congress into cutting off all our funding for the then Free South Vietnamese to fight for their own Freedom with,

...just as the Communist Soviet Union had given $6 Billion in 600 Soviet tanks and 1,000’s of mobile artillery pieces to Communist Vietnam for its planned ‘Final Solution’ in the Free South, came:

Pictures of a vietnamese Re-Education (SLAVE LABOR) Camp

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1308949/posts

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1806248/posts

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What price for the still Free (that’s US) to pay now, in a new time of war in a new century with our own Freedom directly at stake right here at home..?

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NEVER FORGET

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