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Why Democrats dread hearing the V-word Vietnam: a lesson in fouling up the endgame
The TImes Online ^ | August 24, 2007 | Rosemary Righter

Posted on 08/24/2007 5:33:50 AM PDT by .cnI redruM

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It sure is comical to see GWB successfully use Vietnam to beat the Dems over the head. It's an interesting stratergery.
1 posted on 08/24/2007 5:33:53 AM PDT by .cnI redruM
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To: .cnI redruM
Good article. The Democrats are invested in defeat and good news is leaving them politically stranded. And the pro-victory forces are just beginning to turn up the political heat. Stay tuned!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

2 posted on 08/24/2007 5:37:20 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: .cnI redruM
The liberals and their media are too stupid to understand that it was their defeatism and treason in Vietnam that has brought the Republican Party to political dominance in particular in the executive branch and winning the White House five times out of the last seven elections. Few years after Vietnam the American people realized that Vietnam was not lost on the battlefield but it was undermined by liberals and their media here at home and since then the democrats have been viewed by a majority of voters as defeatists and not to be trusted with national defense in particular in time of war.

Now liberals and their media are committing the same treason regarding the Iraq war, the good news is that we are winning this war despite the defeatists and traitors among us. Also the majority of voters will remember the defeatism and treason of liberal in this war for many years to come and the democrats will pay a very heavy political price for it.

3 posted on 08/24/2007 5:46:09 AM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: .cnI redruM
Gee whiz, President Bush actually compared Iraq and Vietnam. How dare he! And he had to be the first to do that!

Sure he was. < /sarcasm>

Thank you President Bush!

4 posted on 08/24/2007 5:55:07 AM PDT by Budge (<>< Sit Nomen Domini benedictum. <><)
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Sorry, but I don’t think the Dems are looking at the comparison in depth. They just see this as an opportunity to score a few cheap political points and look worried for our troops to a public who already see them as callous, uncaring, and trasonous. I mean, can you really see John Effin Kerry in a meeting with aides pouring over the Vietnam references and debating the phraseology of a public rebuke?


5 posted on 08/24/2007 5:55:27 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: jveritas

bingo


6 posted on 08/24/2007 5:58:19 AM PDT by petercooper ("Daisy-cutters trump a wiretap anytime." - Nicole Gelinas - 02-10-04)
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To: jveritas
I think that the Vietnam veteran voting bloc defeated Kerry in '04.

This cohort detests smelly hippies and will defeat Hillary.

7 posted on 08/24/2007 5:59:10 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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“The V-word is lodged in folk memory as an unwinnable war that America should never have fought, that wasted blood and treasure, and that, most woundingly, bitterly split the nation.”

Only for morons. Vietnam was one theater of a very bitter cold war. Our efforts there showed both the Soviet Union and China that we would go the extra mile to block the spread of communism, and helped greatly, IMO, to bring to an end that system of tyranny. Much of what the modern world has become, with Russia and China moving - albeit at a snail’s pace - into econmic liberalism and democracy is owed to the troops who fought in that thankless war. History will document this fact after the smug Baby Boomer Ageing Hippie Liberal America-bashers have passed from the scene and a generation with greater insight and far greater objectivity takes over the task of writing the texts of the period.


8 posted on 08/24/2007 6:00:58 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: All; .cnI redruM; goldstategop; freema; fatima; CBart95

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No Joke.

JOHN KERRY =

Pictures of a vietnamese Re-Education (SLAVE LABOR) Camp

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1308949/posts

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..”JOURNEY from the FALL”.. MoviePremieres = Fall of Saigon CLARITY..

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1806248/posts

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9 posted on 08/24/2007 6:54:23 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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If those camps were mind-numbingly brutal, would they make stupid enough to vote for JF Kerry?
10 posted on 08/24/2007 7:06:01 AM PDT by .cnI redruM (James Hansen; Scott Thomas Beauchamp with a PhD)
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To: Budge

No, I do believe it was the anti-war folk who compared Iraq to Vietnam. But it’s okay for them to do that, right?


11 posted on 08/24/2007 7:15:01 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Our first responsibility is to keep the power of the Presidency out of the hands of the Clintons.)
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To: .cnI redruM

The Democrats hate hearing about Vietnam because they refuse to take responsibility for their actions.


12 posted on 08/24/2007 7:16:28 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Our first responsibility is to keep the power of the Presidency out of the hands of the Clintons.)
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Thank you, Thank you very much ..HIDEK6

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“WE WERE SOLDIERS ONCE...& YOUNG”...4-FREEDOM

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13 posted on 08/24/2007 7:18:19 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: popdonnelly
It looks as if GWB just stuck them with that responsibility.
14 posted on 08/24/2007 7:23:01 AM PDT by .cnI redruM (James Hansen; Scott Thomas Beauchamp with a PhD)
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To: goldstategop

I’m not sure this is a good article or not. The writer seems to be missing some points.


15 posted on 08/24/2007 7:29:11 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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During the 2004 Presidential Campaign I personally witnessed survivors of Communist Vietnam’s Re-Education (SLAVE LABOR) Camps coming into our Little Saigon CA Republican Headquarters in droves to register to vote against JOHN KERRY.

Fully understanding those who were responsible here for their untold suffering in Vietnam after the Fall of Saigon, including having had their stomachs cut open by GODless Communist Vietnamese prison guards.

I know too, for I’ve had my fingers run along inside in those deep scars.

“We did they do this to me?” these Camp survivors would ask me.

“Because they could” I answered.

For Communists have NO sense of humor.

And America’s Communist North Vietnam’s supporters during Vietnam War were:

JOHN KERRY
TED KENNEDY
HILLARY RODHAM
WILLIAM CLINTON
BARBARA BOXER
JANE FONDA
TOM HAYDEN
RAMSEY CLARK
JESSE JACKSON

Deja vu, now..?

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16 posted on 08/24/2007 7:42:47 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: .cnI redruM
Back in 1972-73, America promised continuing support of the South Vietnamese, which the Democrats reneged on by ending financial support. We all watched from our televisions as the North Vietnamese rolled into Saigon in 1975. The killing fields continued unabated.

The Democrats of today promise NO SUPPORT OF ANY KIND to the Iraqis, only “cut and run.”

Then what, imbeciles? Boots on the ground in Israel in three or four years?

17 posted on 08/24/2007 8:02:17 AM PDT by detch
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ping


18 posted on 08/24/2007 8:35:13 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: .cnI redruM

IMO, the Vietnam war was “lost” by DC politicians and anti-war, anti-America traitors. Our brave soldiers didn’t lose the Vietnam War. Political hacks and political games lost the war. Vietnam-era 60’s politicians and Liberals have our soldiers’ blood on their hands and on what little conscience they have. Today’s traitorous politicians are equally as guilty as 60’s DC politicians. Too bad the politicians of the 60’s and those of today, can’t be sent to the war zone for a good dose of reality. They should have to serve and be ruled by the same political BS and rules of engagement like our brave American patriots were and are today. Politicians should have their lives put on the line using the stupid rules of war issued by DC morons playing games. IMO, it’s disgusting and an American disgrace. Each of these political slimes will face their God and have to confess their dirty deeds and power-hungry tricks. They’re not worthy of licking the bottoms of our soldiers’ boots.


19 posted on 08/24/2007 8:37:23 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Look what I found on another thread.

"Hillary Clinton is the only candidate who is viewed much more negatively than positively by veterans. Clinton would seem to be at a decided disadvantage among veterans, given that roughly 9 in 10 in the sample are men," said Gallup managing editor Jeff Jones.

20 posted on 08/24/2007 1:13:00 PM PDT by HIDEK6
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