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UPDATE: Richmond judge bars removal of Lee statue on Monument Avenue for 10 days
Richmond Times Dispatch ^ | 6/9/2020 | Staff

Posted on 06/09/2020 4:10:18 AM PDT by Captain Jack Aubrey

A Richmond judge has issued a temporary injunction barring the state from taking down the Robert E. Lee statue on Monument Avenue for 10 days.

The injunction, issued Monday afternoon, came after a complaint was filed earlier in the day objecting to the monument’s removal. Gov. Ralph Northam announced last week that the state would take down the 130-year-old statue, which it owns and maintains, after a week of protests against police brutality and racism.

Earlier Monday, state workers inspected the monument before its planned removal. The Department of General Services said in a statement that a date for the statue’s removal had not been determined. Northam asked that it be taken down “as soon as possible.”

(Excerpt) Read more at richmond.com ...


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It turns out by law the governor is required to protect the statue.
1 posted on 06/09/2020 4:10:18 AM PDT by Captain Jack Aubrey
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To: Captain Jack Aubrey

Beautiful section of Richmond. Will never be the same...


2 posted on 06/09/2020 4:13:54 AM PDT by 11th_VA (May you live in interesting times - Ancient Chinese Proverb)
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To: Captain Jack Aubrey

Does anybody know if President Trump can simply declare all these monuments “National Parks” and take any control away from state and local officials entirely. I know President’s have essentially unlimited ability to create National Parks with a stroke of the pen.


3 posted on 06/09/2020 4:14:53 AM PDT by apillar
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To: Captain Jack Aubrey

How dare anyone deprive ‘Coon Man’ of his virtual signaling effort!


4 posted on 06/09/2020 4:17:07 AM PDT by ArtDodger
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To: Captain Jack Aubrey

Keep it up.

Do not change anything, except maybe get rid of police neck crunches.

Not sure they should even be legal.

However, everything else should remain exactly the same.

Completely.


5 posted on 06/09/2020 4:17:59 AM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: Captain Jack Aubrey
We are now the Taliban


6 posted on 06/09/2020 4:24:57 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care! Guilting you is how they control you.)
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To: Captain Jack Aubrey

If the demographics for Blacks of violent death, especially by abortion, are true, then they are just setting the precedent for the rising Hispanic ‘minority-majority’ to rename all the MLK and Malcolm X streets and schools and put up their own statues. So they are just erasing their own future history, unfortunately for all history. But it has been ever so, see ISIS and predecessors.


7 posted on 06/09/2020 4:24:58 AM PDT by JungleGoat77 (.)
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To: apillar

That only applies to federal lands. It does not apply to state or private property.


8 posted on 06/09/2020 4:31:23 AM PDT by GreenLanternCorps (Hi! I'm the Dread Pirate Roberts! (TM) Atsk about franchise opportunities in your area.)
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To: cba123

Because the police crunches werr a reason for the riots and looting and devastation. We forgot to remember these are bad guys. They are capable of anything once they are freed from a grip. I don’t know enough about clamping down on the neck to stop the person from attacking you but someone seeming nonviolent and not combative wouldn’t make me feel very secure since he is a criminal who put a knife to a pregnant woman’s belly and was full of fentanyl.

The jury will decide this.

That being said, I don’t understand why they couldn’t have put the guy in handcuffs after he was fully restrained. But I wasn’t there and the jury will decide like I said

and no the cops didn’t know ahead of time of his very long criminal record but I think they can assume pretty much at this point it wasn’t an attorney that passed counterfeit bills and filled himself with fentanyl


9 posted on 06/09/2020 4:34:12 AM PDT by dp0622 (The very future of the Republic is at stake. We now know dems will do ANYTHING to win.)
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To: Captain Jack Aubrey

You would think this would be true. How can the Governor remove something like this by himself? Should require a full vote by the legislature; Northam shouldn’t be allowed to be king here.


10 posted on 06/09/2020 4:43:17 AM PDT by Trump20162020
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To: Captain Jack Aubrey

I believe the Lee statue is listed on the National Register of Historic Places. The Governor cannot just remove it. They must comply with certain Section 106 ? Requirements to do so. This probably would require a Cultural Resource Study which could take few months to complete and go through review.


11 posted on 06/09/2020 4:53:23 AM PDT by XRdsRev (ORANGE MAN GOOD.)
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To: JungleGoat77

Excellent post.

Demographics is destiny—all the rest is bulls^%t.


12 posted on 06/09/2020 4:56:56 AM PDT by cgbg (Kneeling is a half measure--lefties need to dig a six foot hole and bury themselves in it.)
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To: XRdsRev

It is on the National Register of Historic Places.


13 posted on 06/09/2020 4:58:38 AM PDT by Captain Jack Aubrey (There's not a moment to lose.)
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Monument Avenue is on the National Register of Historic Places. It is a designated National Historic Landmark. It is a formally designated historic district under federal and state law and city ordinance. And, as we now learn, the Lee statue itself (the story doesn't specifically mention the other statues) is contractually protected.

We are about to have a test of whether any of these protections can stand up to mob hysteria. This will turn on whether the judges in the legal hierarchy through which the case will move have any degree of integrity. Some might, if the case gets to them.

But the outcome will also depend on whether the people challenging the removal can muster the will and resources to continue the fight. They will be bullied and attacked. Potential donors will be intimidated. The legal authorities of the City of Richmond and the State of Virginia are faithless; they will side with the mob instead of defending the law.

It is still possible for preservationists to win, but the odds are stacked against them. It would help immensely if some prominent black people were willing to step forward and lead the fight for the preservation of historical monuments. We shall see.

This could become an epic story of fearless, lonely legal resistance to political hysteria. It would be a worthy addition to the canon of legal hero stories. Perhaps some whispering is going on in conservative legal circles. Who will stand up to the mob and take on a just but unpopular case?

14 posted on 06/09/2020 5:02:05 AM PDT by sphinx
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I don’t like the way they’re being torn down and I even have great admiration for both Lee and Jackson who I see as complicated individuals...but my belief is...the statues belong in museums not public space.


15 posted on 06/09/2020 5:10:55 AM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: Captain Jack Aubrey

Let them ignore the injunction. Then let the POTUS grow the balls to ignore their injunctions.


16 posted on 06/09/2020 5:27:53 AM PDT by Phinneous (By the way, there are Seven Laws for you too! Noahide.org)
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“....but my belief is...the statues belong in museums not public space.”

....but my belief is...the statues belong right where they are.


17 posted on 06/09/2020 5:30:04 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Why do they belong in museums?

If all history disapproved by the masses is to be hidden away where one must seek it out, how does that make the disapproving society any less heinous than a holocaust denier?

Further, if society cannot even disagree somewhat agreeably on factual people from their past, then how is the right to disagree preserved for any future generation?


18 posted on 06/09/2020 5:54:10 AM PDT by MortMan (Shouldn't "palindrome" read the same forward and backward?)
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To: MortMan

>>>If all history disapproved by the masses is to be hidden away where one must seek it out,

Somehow, I bet folks between Atlanta and Savannah are aware of General Sherman and I don’t think you’ll find a statue of him in any city Square along that route. maybe that is the answer. Don’t tear down statues, put statues of Grant and Sherman up all across the south.


19 posted on 06/09/2020 6:02:42 AM PDT by oincobx ( Posting)
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To: apillar

“I know President’s have essentially unlimited ability to create National Parks with a stroke of the pen.”

Additions to the National Park System are now made through acts of Congress, and national parks can be created only through such acts. And trying to get the house to declare land owned by the state, especially liberal ones that pander to the black vote, ain’t gonna happen.

The Antiquities Act of 1906 grants the President discretionary authority to declare lands of “historic or scientific interest” as national monuments as long as those lands are owned by the federal government.

rwood


20 posted on 06/09/2020 6:03:30 AM PDT by Redwood71
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