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To: Mariner

Someone please explain America’s present deep interest in the mid-east, particularly in remote places in Syria and Iraq’s border

And moreover, WHAT have we gained from it, besides thousands of dead GI’s and bankrupting the nation. We invaded Iraq to “promote democracy” and yet 20 years later, China controls Iraq’s largest oil fields.

In the 1970s, America’s oil production started to decline, so naturally, we and our Saudis needed a stable Persian Gulf

Now the USA is an oil/gas exporter and largest producer in the world. It shouldn’t matter to us if the Persian Gulf burns.

Or is it protecting Israel.


3 posted on 01/28/2024 11:41:44 AM PST by PGR88
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To: PGR88

Barack Obama further fundamentally transforming America. Is everyone happy about that?


5 posted on 01/28/2024 11:43:30 AM PST by Skul
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To: PGR88

“Someone please explain America’s present deep interest in the mid-east, particularly in remote places in Syria and Iraq’s border.

A tiny piece: All Muslim nations are one entity, with stronger ties than NATO. They are at war with us permanently, whether obvious/active or not. They hit peaks at times because they are excitable religious fanatics ready to die gloriously when their antbed is kicked.

“And moreover, WHAT have we gained from it, besides thousands of dead GI’s and bankrupting the nation.”

That’s a tremendous error of method, not of policy. We always pull our punches, waste time, material and people because we are so scared of what our enemies/pretend friends will say. We need to flatten Iran completely and tell the rest to take notice or they’re next. Won’t happen.

“Now the USA is an oil/gas exporter and largest producer in the world. It shouldn’t matter to us if the Persian Gulf burns.”

Wait. Exporting doesn’t mean we have more than we need. Get this: We produce at a record rate right now: 14.8mm barrels a day.
We use 19.69 barrels a day. Oops. Exporting is taking advantage of price discovery to make more on some oil so the company can invest in future production. There are a lot of complicated moving parts in energy.

If Muslims can close the short sea routes to the market, the world will be in a depression quickly. They price will start up as more futures are sold, shipping costs are up 40%, guess what that means.


29 posted on 01/28/2024 12:12:50 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Are you ready for Black Lives MAGA? It's coming.)
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To: PGR88

Pick up a Bible.


51 posted on 01/28/2024 2:22:29 PM PST by roving (Deplorable Listless Vessel Trumpist With Trumpitis and a Rainbow Bully)
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To: PGR88

Intervention and weakness are the worst of all worlds.


52 posted on 01/28/2024 2:24:56 PM PST by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! DEATH TO MARXISM AND LEFTISM! AMERICA, COWBOY UP!)
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To: PGR88
Interests? Have you heard of the petrodollar and the use of the US Dollar as the currency of international reserve? Has it occured to you that oil is an international commodity and global prices will affect the US? Has it ocured to you that our allies depend on Middle Eastern petrol and gas?
We pull out and we give the Middle East to China and the Yuan replaces the dollar. We suddenly have to pay our debt and at 10% interest rates. China dominates the globe.
55 posted on 01/30/2024 1:31:50 AM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers." )
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