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Student encampments have the potential to strengthen US democracy
The Guardian ^ | May 4, 2024 | Jan-Werner Müller

Posted on 05/05/2024 5:32:25 PM PDT by artichokegrower

Three things are certain: antisemitism is on the rise; hatred of Muslims is increasing; and everyone – but especially those at universities with time to reflect – should be very, very troubled by this. Without taking account of the hate waves, it is impossible to understand why the seemingly mundane act of pitching a tent on campus has become so high stakes: is it announcing a desire to annihilate Israel, or is it a perfectly legitimate way to protest against particular US (and university) policies

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To be sure, today’s encampments are not hippie festivals; people might show up with guitars, but next to the guitar is a Hezbollah flag.


I don’t like Hezbollah.

Robert Dean Stethem (November 17, 1961 – June 15, 1985) was a United States Navy Seabee diver who was murdered by Hezbollah members during the hijacking of the commercial airliner he was aboard, TWA Flight 847.[1] At the time of his death, his Navy rating was Steelworker Second Class (SW2).

On June 14, 1985, Stethem was returning from an assignment in Nea Makri, Greece, aboard TWA Flight 847 when it was hijacked by members of the Lebanese organization Hezbollah. The hijackers kept 39 people hostage for 17 days, demanding the release of 766 Lebanese and Palestinians held by Israel. When their demands were not met, Stethem, as a member of the U.S. military, was beaten and tortured. Finally, the terrorists shot him in the temple and dumped his body onto the tarmac at the Beirut airport.

1 posted on 05/05/2024 5:32:25 PM PDT by artichokegrower
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To: artichokegrower

Ya, and black is white and up is down.


2 posted on 05/05/2024 5:34:21 PM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing)
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To: artichokegrower

Oh, otay buckwheat. Somebody actually published this? Fidiots. They’ll be coming for you eventually.


3 posted on 05/05/2024 5:36:50 PM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)
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To: artichokegrower

, it is impossible to understand why the seemingly mundane act of pitching a tent on campus has become so high stakes: is it announcing a desire to annihilate Israel, or is it a perfectly legitimate way to protest against particular US (and university) policies?


It is a bought and paid for protest with the goal of destroying the United States.

Not hard to understand.

It’s just pitching a tent................................

Mostly peaceful and good for the environment.


4 posted on 05/05/2024 5:49:02 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Flaming Conservative

Here is one simple reply to this idiocy.

Why aren’t there wide open laws to allow living in tents?
Housing laws prohibit landlords from having unsafe electrical and other utilities, or ceilings that could drop onto someone, or doors that can’t be locked, or crevices where vermin could enter and live. And there have to be toilets and water for washing.
A tent wouldn’t keep out the elements or meet other requirements. So if you allow them a landlord could make money off the suffering of people living in them——not just at a protest but everywhere.


5 posted on 05/05/2024 5:49:15 PM PDT by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls.)
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To: artichokegrower

The Guardian is part of the work-therapy program from London’s Bedlam Hospital for the Mentally GaGa. patients starts by publishing articles like this. As they progress towards mental health and sensibility, they assemble random letters, smear the paper with their own feces or roll in a puddle of ink and then on the paper, all of which make infinitely more sense than this article.


6 posted on 05/05/2024 5:50:03 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Democrats' version of MAGA: Making America the Gulag Archipelago. Now with "Formal Deprogramming")
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To: artichokegrower

The world moves a lot faster now than ever before. Things happen a lot faster. People change a lot faster. Their minds can be corrupted a lot faster.

Rome too centuries before that empire died. Whatever democracy existed during those times, eventually eroded and faded away. The ideals of real democracy didn’t die.

In today’s American, and in other western democracies, what’s understood as democracy is the tolerance of all different opinions and ideals and religions, and forms of government. All of those cannot coexist. Something’s gotta give. What’s occurring now, is that, we must accept all viewpoints and all ideals and all forms of government and all forms of civil unrest and all forms of economies, in order to call it ‘democracy’. Nothing could be farther form the truth. Religion as government is not democracy. Civil disobedience that takes away the rights of others, is not democracy. Civil disobedience that promotes violence ir order to get one’s way, is not democracy.

There is no democracy involved in what the Hamas and Hezbollah terrorists promote. There is no democracy in corrupting the minds of the young, at university levels and below. There is no democracy in undoing what has worked great for more than 250 years in the U.S.

Redefining what is democracy, is not democratic, and the so-called ‘democrats’ are the evil that’s trying to undo the best democracy that ever existed. In fact, the democratic party is not about democracy.


7 posted on 05/05/2024 5:53:12 PM PDT by adorno (CCH)
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8 posted on 05/05/2024 5:53:59 PM PDT by Tzimisce ( )
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Democracy (or Our Democracy)

You Keep Using That Word, I Do Not Think It Means What You Think It Means

The way the left uses it means Our Global Color Revolution.

No republican or conservative should even utter that word. Even in the true sense, democracy means the popular vote wins and there's no such thing as the electoral college. Yet I see all the popular right wing personalities use it over and over.

9 posted on 05/05/2024 5:55:28 PM PDT by Pollard (Will work for high tunnel money!)
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O.J. was set up.


10 posted on 05/05/2024 5:58:46 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: artichokegrower

“Student encampments have the potential to strengthen US democracy”

Well, it is the uber-left Guardian. But we could build a border wall and dump 10 million illegals on the other side, this would certainly strengthen democracy and enhance republicanism.


11 posted on 05/05/2024 5:59:02 PM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute. )
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"Without taking account of the hate waves, it is impossible to understand why the seemingly mundane act of pitching a tent on campus "

Uh...phrasing.

12 posted on 05/05/2024 6:00:15 PM PDT by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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You are so picky about those anti-colonialist freedom fighters. /SARC

Problem is the American Leftists, including students, think the Palestinians are barely avoiding extinction from Israeli genocide (except they work and live where they please in Israel and one Muslim sits on the Supreme Court there and there have been 100 Muslims as Knesset members since 1949).

They just accept the lies and feel noble and virtuous for hating Jews.


13 posted on 05/05/2024 6:04:59 PM PDT by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls.)
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To: artichokegrower

“Strengthen democracy” is just Guardian speak for bringing in a Marxist/Fascist dictatorship.


14 posted on 05/05/2024 6:15:29 PM PDT by marktwain (The Republic is at risk. Resistance to the Democratic Party is Resistance to Tyranny. )
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Soros’s stooges strengthening US democracy?

FOAD, Guardian
- or -
ESAD, Guardian

whichever is quicker


15 posted on 05/05/2024 6:19:55 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist! )
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Oh yeh...they’re the good guys...cheering Hamas on...


16 posted on 05/05/2024 6:22:49 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: artichokegrower

Communist HAMAS: “Death to America is our Strength!”


17 posted on 05/05/2024 6:25:41 PM PDT by linMcHlp
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Stop Genocide, exterminate the Jews.


18 posted on 05/05/2024 6:37:22 PM PDT by bray (It's not racist to be racist against races you do not like.)
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To: artichokegrower

Yeah - utter BS. War is peace, freedom is slavery.


19 posted on 05/05/2024 6:47:30 PM PDT by Skywise
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To: artichokegrower

had enough of democracy, thank you.


20 posted on 05/05/2024 6:51:29 PM PDT by xoxox
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