Posted on 08/10/2006 10:05:40 AM PDT by neverdem
Hundreds of people are flocking to shooting ranges in nearby communities to take the class required to be certified to carry concealed weapons, but they wont be taking classes in Harvey County for now.
The Harvey County Commission Monday voted unanimously not to allow instructors to teach concealed carry certification classes at the countys outdoor shooting range.
The commission cited liability reasons and law enforcements demands for the range for not approving a waiver for the classes, Craig Simons, county administrator, said.
Only three completed applications have been submitted to the Harvey County Sheriffs Department since they became available July 1, Sheriff Byron Motter said.
However, he said he expected more applications to be processed before licenses are actually issued Jan. 1.
As of Friday, the attorney generals office had received 446 applications, said Chuck Sexson, the states new director of concealed services.
Applicants must be 21 and complete an eight-hour training course, including information on gun laws and firearms handling before they are eligible for licenses. They also must submit to background checks and have no criminal history or history of mental illness.
Once issued, the licenses are good for four years. Based on the experiences of other states, Kansas could issue up to 25,000 licenses in the next couple of years, Sexson said.
Sexson said he also thought his office will be ready to send notification of acceptance to applicants by the end of December. They can then go to a drivers license renewal office to have a concealed carry identification card made or can have a notice placed on their drivers licenses, similar to the licenses of organ donors.
Newton police Chief Jim Daily is one of two certified instructors who asked the outdoor range be made available for certification classes.
Daily now teaches classes in the evenings at the BulletStop, a Wichita Range.
The Bullet Stop has concealed carry classes booked through October and as many as 1,000 people waiting to take classes, Daily said.
Charles Harter, owner of The OutBack Park shooting range in McPherson, said he had 300 people signed up for classes, which start Aug. 14
The state has certified 250 people to conduct the firearms course.
Wed like to have up around 300 instructors as kind of a core group. Sexson said. Well certainly take as many as we can certify because that simply gets more programs out there for the applicants to attend.
Daily said he thought the classes were an essential part of the new law, although he thought participants might benefit if they spent more time in learning about the weapons and the law.
Daily and Harter both said they thought the law will decrease crime in the state.
Kansas is the 48th state to pass concealed carry legislation.
Crime has decreased in those states that have passed the legislation, Daily said.
I dont think the folks who are applying for licenses are going to be the ones breaking the law and committing violent crime, he said. This law provides the general population who need or desire and meet the state requirements to carry a weapon to protect themselves.
Harter said the deterrent comes from the fact people dont know who will be carrying a gun.
He and Daily said they have had people sign up for their classes of all ages, professions and both sexes.
I have had everyone from an ER trauma doctor to an unemployed housewife, he said.
Harter said he was talking to more people who wished to carry guns in their vehicles than on their person, but once people are certified, they can do both.
Classes at The OutBack Park are $175, and participants must provide their own weapons and 50 rounds of ammunition. For an additional $40, participants can be certified for the state of Florida, which has reciprocal concealed carry agreements with 29 other states.
Matt Frazier, an employee at Patriot Pawn and Firearms Company in Newton, said many people have been asking about the concealed carry law, but he did not think handgun sales had increased.
Elsewhere in the state, gun sellers have reported increases in sales.
Usually summers in the gun business are deader than a doornail, but were having a record year, said Jeff Howlett, owner of Kansas Firearms Specialties in Tonganoxie.
The Associated Press contributed to this story.
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Article implies that there are 48 states that passed CCW. Please check, I think it is 38 states.
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I took my class for 80.00. Look for good deals at http://www.ksconcealedcarry.com - instructor Bill Regina.
"Kansas is the 48th state to pass concealed carry legislation."
It is poorly worded. Here's a visual summary, courtesy of jdege. It says "shall issue" now equals 37.
And I don't use that word very often....
This explanation has the distinct odor of a pretext wrapped in a government lie. It might be a good target for a FOIA request to determine whether or not Craig Simons, county administrator, is being truthful...
Classes at The OutBack Park are $175, and participants must provide their own weapons and 50 rounds of ammunition. For an additional $40, participants can be certified for the state of Florida, which has reciprocal concealed carry agreements with 29 other states.
Why must one pay for their 2nd Amendment rights? I can understand an uninitiated person wanting to learn how to handle firearms, but for those of us who are veteran military/LEO, IMO , don't require this training. I see this as another fee/tax/license/registration/certification/governmental revenue producer.
Once again "law enforcement" shows its true colors on the 2nd amendment.
What's weired is Vermont, the wish washy liberal state that has had unrestricted carry for some time.
Instead of charging people an arm and a leg to exercise a Right, how about we just add it as a required course for school kids? Start at about 5th grade and make it mandatory through graduation from high school.
Maybe toss in a "religious" exemption for the pacifists out there who would prefer their kids go through life crippled and stupid.
No doubt they need the range 24/7.
Cops hurt, dog killed Check the kid's name.
No crime, no big cities & too many white devils that hunt
No doubt
Article implies that there are 48 states that passed CCW. Please check, I think it is 38 states.
Only two states remain that have absolutely no provision for CCW for the Rest of Us. Most states are shall issue, most of the rest are may issue. Ill-i-noise and, I think, Wisconsin have nothing at all, unless you're a Chicago alderman.
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