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Democrats gamble on GOP caving in debt ceiling fight
The Hill ^ | 08/10/21 06:00 AM EDT | BY JORDAIN CARNEY

Posted on 08/10/2021 4:51:16 AM PDT by RandFan

Congress is barreling toward a high-stakes showdown over the nation's borrowing limit, with neither party ready to blink.

Congressional leaders will soon need to find a way to pass legislation raising or suspending the debt ceiling, or risk a default that could have catastrophic ramifications for global financial markets.

So far, they appear content to play a game of chicken reminiscent of the 2011 standoff that resulted in the S&P taking the historic step of downgrading the U.S. credit rating.

One option for Democrats would be to try to raise the debt ceiling on their own as part of a $3.5 trillion spending package they will try to pass this year under budget rules that let them avoid the need for any GOP votes. Instead, they appear to be betting that Republicans will ultimately put up the votes to help raise the spending limit.

The budget resolution unveiled by Senate Democrats on Monday that sets up the $3.5 trillion spending plan doesn’t mention the debt ceiling. It’s also not included in two summaries, including a memo to Democratic senators that explain what they’ll include in the $3.5 trillion bill they want to pass this fall.

Republicans are vowing they won’t help raise the debt ceiling, even though GOP lawmakers supported suspending it during the Trump administration, amid frustration over Democrats’ plan to bypass them and pass the $3.5 trillion bill.

“Democrats have all the existing tools they need to raise the debt limit on a partisan basis. If they want 50 lock-step Democratic votes to spend trillions and trillions more, they can find 50 Democratic votes to finance it,” Senate GOP Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.) said from the Senate floor.

“If they don’t want Republicans’ input, they don’t need our help,” he added.

The hard line on the debt ceiling comes as Republicans have returned to their Obama-era deficit hawk leanings after brushing off the debt under four years of big spending by former President Trump.

Senate Republicans agreed to put non-binding language in their caucus rules earlier this year to support requiring spending cuts or reforms in exchange for raising the debt ceiling. And they appear eager to try to make Democrats own spending and the debt heading into 2022 and amid concerns about inflation.

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) had been expected to outline his demands on spending reforms in return for GOP votes on raising the debt ceiling, predicting that Democrats wouldn’t try to do it on their own because it would be a “great ad” to Republicans. But Graham subsequently canceled his plans, saying he supported McConnell’s effort to make Democrats try to address the issue on their own.

Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio) told CNBC’s “Squawk Box” that Democrats should be able to raise the debt ceiling “with their own votes,” particularly after they passed a $1.9 trillion coronavirus relief bill without any GOP votes and are now planning to do the same with their $3.5 trillion spending plan.

“So I think that’s something … that they can do on their own and they should, because they’re the ones that have pushed this debt to the point where it really is getting dangerously high,” he said.

When exactly Congress needs to act remains unclear. The spending limit kicked back in on Aug. 1, after Congress and the Trump administration agreed to suspend it in 2019, and the Treasury Department has since been using “extraordinary measures” to keep the government solvent.

The Bipartisan Policy Center estimates the so-called X date, or the point at which the U.S. government will be unable to fully meet its financial obligations on time, will arrive at some point this fall.

The House is out of Washington until late September and the Senate is poised to leave this week, returning in mid-September. That could put the debt fight front-and-center when lawmakers return next month.

The Treasury Department hasn’t put a firm timeline on how long it expects that it will be able to use extraordinary measures to delay running up against the country’s borrowing limit. But Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen warned in a statement that failing to raise the debt ceiling would cause “irreparable harm to the U.S. economy and the livelihoods of all Americans.”

“Congress should do so again now by increasing or suspending the debt limit on a bipartisan basis. The vast majority of the debt subject to the debt limit was accrued prior to the Administration taking office. This is a shared responsibility,” she said.

To raise or suspend the debt ceiling outside of the budget process, Democrats will need at least 10 Republican votes in the Senate to defeat a 60-vote legislative filibuster. Democrats could try to attach it to another must-pass bill, like a short-term spending bill they are expected to use to fund the government beyond Sept. 30, in order to try to pressure Republicans.

They appear likely to bet that Republicans won’t risk a global financial meltdown so soon after the coronavirus shook the U.S. economy. But Democrats, so far, aren’t laying out how they plan to avoid a financial fiasco if they don’t raise the borrowing limit on their own.

“I don’t know the answer to that,” said Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), the No. 2 Democratic senator, told reporters when asked how they would raise the debt ceiling.

He added that it would be “totally irresponsible” for Republicans to refuse to help raise the debt ceiling, but that it was “too soon” to know if Democrats would try to attach it to a continuing resolution (CR), which would temporarily fund the government at current levels starting on Oct. 1.

Senate Budget Committee Chairman Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) on Monday was carrying a paper with previous quotes from McConnell about not allowing the country to default.

“Just coincidentally, these are all the quotes of Mitch McConnell who has said we will never have America default,” Sanders told reporters. “He’s right.”


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To: RandFan

He gave up any leverage with the Dems by passing the infrastructure bill. McConnell should have at least demanded that the rest of the wall be completed as a precondition for signing the bill.


21 posted on 08/10/2021 5:29:24 AM PDT by kabar
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To: 9YearLurker

We don’t even know what is in those 2,700+ pages of the bill, which was written by Dem lobbyists.


22 posted on 08/10/2021 5:30:38 AM PDT by kabar
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Congress is barreling toward a high-stakes showdown over the nation's borrowing limit, with neither party ready to blink.

What a pant load of an opening sentence. Honestly, who reads this garbage?

23 posted on 08/10/2021 5:30:57 AM PDT by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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To: Alberta's Child

Yes but taxes is where they draw the line. Look at us we are not letting them raise taxes. Spending through the roof ok but taxes.....


24 posted on 08/10/2021 5:34:21 AM PDT by pas
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To: RandFan

Republicans caving is about the safest bet anyone can make. Most GOPers are wayyy too jello-spined to put up a fight.


25 posted on 08/10/2021 5:49:07 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Enough. Divide the country.. now. )
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To: Alberta's Child

If I had one criticism of Trump it was he signed every POS spending bill that came out of that Congress.

He should have insisted things were put in order.

This is where Rand broke from Trump unfortunately. And yes, he pointed it out at the time so The Hill can check their facts.


26 posted on 08/10/2021 6:01:02 AM PDT by RandFan
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To: RandFan
I said at the time that Trump would sign whatever spending bill came across his desk -- because he really had no leverage to veto any of them.

I voted for him because he WASN'T a Republican. This was one of the flaws in that whole process -- because he was a President who answered to Congress, not a dictator.

27 posted on 08/10/2021 6:03:26 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And once in a night I dreamed you were there; I canceled my flight from going nowhere.")
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To: Browns Ultra Fan

“Absolutely right, Republicans will cave. Polticians will ALWAYS sell us out, regardless of political stripe.”

While it is the surest thing in the cosmos that the “Republican” will cave, as wag Michael Malice says “the GOP are just communists going the speed limit,” it is not always true that “regardless of stripe” politicians will sell us out. That is true on the “Right” but not true on the Left. Leftists politicians are renowned for keeping their misanthropic promises, knowing that if they sell out their constituencies it will mean political death, if they are lucky. They are not sell-outs, they are the enemies of civilization.


28 posted on 08/10/2021 6:05:45 AM PDT by crusher (GREEN: Globaloney for the Gullible)
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To: kabar

We do know some bits of it though:

https://nypost.com/2021/08/05/infrastructure-bill-contains-driver-fee-proposal-that-could-cross-bidens-red-line/

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/infrastructure-bill-mandates-new-cars-detect-drunk-driver


29 posted on 08/10/2021 6:13:59 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

Gambling on the GOP caving is really no gamble at all.

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We don’t have a political party representing us, and never will as long as we rely on the GOP. That is the hard reality.


30 posted on 08/10/2021 6:14:28 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: RandFan
Soap Box, Ballot Box....

"...you know, the thing..."

31 posted on 08/10/2021 6:17:28 AM PDT by RckyRaCoCo (Please Pray For My Brother Ken.)
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To: Starboard

The Republican Party is the only path to conservative success.

The constant antirepublican conservative blathering is detrimental to carrying the conservative message forward.

Unlike Israel and other nations, America has two parties. Minor splinter groups must find a way to fit in to one or the other.


32 posted on 08/10/2021 6:18:35 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Like BLM, Joe Biden is a Domestic Enemy )
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To: RandFan

Given recent history, the Dems know their opponents.


33 posted on 08/10/2021 6:26:10 AM PDT by Demiurge2 (Define your terms!)
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To: Starboard

Yep. Including our favorite bunkies in it (at least on the national level).


34 posted on 08/10/2021 6:34:14 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: RandFan

It’s a safe bet.


35 posted on 08/10/2021 6:34:47 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: napscoordinator

The Great Everett Dirksen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Au2-J-3on0


36 posted on 08/10/2021 7:24:48 AM PDT by maxsand
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To: 9YearLurker

How true. More like a sure bet.


37 posted on 08/10/2021 7:25:21 AM PDT by Jean2
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To: 9YearLurker

Distractions to the big substantive changes that most certainly are in there.


38 posted on 08/10/2021 7:50:03 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Alberta's Child
TRANSLATION: Republicans are full of sh!t.

I wouldn't even give them that much credit. They're full of the gas emanated from the nether regions.

39 posted on 08/10/2021 10:19:33 AM PDT by EinNYC
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To: bert

“The Republican Party is the only path to conservative success.”

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If that’s the case it is hopeless. The GOP is anything but conservative. The party stands for nothing except getting re-elected and feathering their nests. But when they get back in control of congress it will be different this time. LOL


40 posted on 08/10/2021 1:44:21 PM PDT by Starboard
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