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To: aculeus

I'm a Catholic. I believe that suicide is wrong.

I don't think any of those people committed suicide. It's not suicide when you jump to escape from a burning building that will kill you, as far as I'm concerned.

May they rest in peace with God.


20 posted on 03/12/2006 11:24:52 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero
I don't think any of those people committed suicide.

I've never viewed it as suicide either. I think that in an inferno like this that there would come a point when your brain would shut off and your body will do *anything* to escape the crushing heat and smoke.

People who jumped may not have even made a conscious decision to do so. Their bodies did this for them.

25 posted on 03/12/2006 11:50:51 AM PST by Drew68
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To: Cicero

"I don't think any of those people committed suicide. It's not suicide when you jump to escape from a burning building that will kill you, as far as I'm concerned."

You are right.


26 posted on 03/12/2006 11:54:20 AM PST by RoadTest ("- - a popular government cannot flourish without virtue in the people." - Richard Henry Lee, 1786)
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To: Cicero

It wasn't suicide it was murder.


46 posted on 03/12/2006 4:23:45 PM PST by angcat
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To: Cicero
> I believe that suicide is wrong

We don't know (and will never know) that it was suicide. These poor people could have been holding on to the last possible structural component of their floor on the building -- and it could have been steadily growing hotter and hotter, until it was impossible to hold on to; or they could have escaped to the last possible ledge, and an advancing fire could have surged forward. Either of these could have forced a person to let go -- not that they chose to jump.

52 posted on 03/12/2006 5:01:31 PM PST by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: Cicero; aculeus
Another Catholic here - very strongly opposed to suicide.

This was not suicide in any sense of the word, it was merely choosing to die by falling instead of burning. And it may well have been involuntary - like flinching back from a hot stove, the drive to escape heat is overwhelming. (I used to be an arson investigator, and people will do ANYthing to escape burning, if not rendered unconscious by the smoke.)

Not suicide. I'm surprised that the priest of the family in the story didn't inform them of this and give them comfort.

63 posted on 03/12/2006 6:14:34 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: Cicero

i agree that the actions were not suicide, and i think the only reason that this enrages some is in that situation would they wait to die when the fire and smoke hits them or choose there own destiny, i have asked myself many times, i would have done the same,may everyone from that tragic day rest in the peace they deserve, and the many people linked to them remember the good in each and every one of them.iam from the uk and shock still hits me when i think back to such a tragic day, god bless them all.


71 posted on 04/10/2006 6:12:17 PM PDT by scissors uk
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