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To: BigBobber
There is blood in the VD house, drag marks outside and prints in DW's RV then it would appear that she was alive in the RV. If she was bleeding enough to leave evidence in her home and on the sidewalk her blood was still coursing through her veins in the RV, where the h*** is the REST of the blood in the RV. How could she bleed that much at home, none in the grass or on the street but more in the RV.

How did DW sneak in to the house before 1:30 (assuming that the first reported time by DvD is correct) hide until after 2:30 or 3:00 (depending on version) drag her down the stairs and out of the door. Then some how get her around the house across one yard, across the street and in the house or RV. I say the house based on the neighbor's "it was locked up" and the blinds were closed. Where is the blood in the house? What are we missing here? Why would he drag her? Why aren't his prints in the VD house?

I vote for accessory after the fact.

30 posted on 03/12/2002 8:14:55 PM PST by Jaded
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To: Jaded
Things that need checking: DW DNA under Danielle's fingernails; evidence of poison in her body.
32 posted on 03/12/2002 8:21:28 PM PST by Kerensky
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To: Jaded

IT IS THEORY TIME CLASS......POST YOURS NOW!!!!

1.    David Westerfield and Brenda VD have been very well acquainted for many weeks or months.....perhaps he was a visitor early on in a "garage party" and decided why not stay close to home.  If (as alleged-click below) these types of activities were occurring, then it is not like any of these folks are people of character, scruples or discretion.

2.    Damon may not be as egregious and fun loving as everyone thinks.....from what I have learned from the "swingers" who have posted on FR the past few weeks, it is all about NO EMOTIONAL ATTACHMENT.  The SWING SET like the physical variance, but it is highly discouraged and frowned upon to imprint on a specific "alternative partner".

3.    One might presume that old Damon was not very happy with the arrangement, and knowing that Brenda VD and DW would coincidentally bump into each other at Dad's Cafe, arranged a surprise for when they returned.

4.    I believe that when the "2 guys" and "2 gals" arrived back the morning of Feb. 2, that a "typical" SWING SET occurred in the garage.....DW was part of the team!!!  He left the "party" when it was over, like the other "guests".  Went home, slept off the night, and was up, packing for his road trip around 9:45 A.M., as reported.

5.    Earlier in the evening, DvD placed Danielle in DW's Motorhome.....for the ultimate revenge/payback possible.....

6.    Westerfield goes on his road trip, discovers the body, freaks out, dumps near the casino, races home and starts cleaning and covering his trail......knowing he has been setup.....

7.    SDPD is "tipped" to DW being a suspect, and move rapidly to track down clues.....(Again, DW was a suspect within 24 hours from previous reports)....and he was the primary focus out of the blocks.  This is common with "fingered" suspects.

8.    Damon and Brenda VD's actions have been peculiar; note on the live John and Ken interview, Brenda VD is a "Chatty Cathy" during the interview, but Damon is silencing her on numerous occasions.  When Douglas Pierce is mentioned, it is Damon who goes ballistic.  Brenda VD may not have a clue as to what is really happening.

9.    As many have mentioned, what is released Monday will tell the tale, as far as David Westerfield being "fingered" by the VD's, or simply became under suspicion because of SDPD foot work.....

10.    Next step???  Will San Diego PD and the DA's office go for the quick "kill", or will they pursue ALL ANGLES to bring any other accomplices or perpetrators to justice?

11.    America's Most Wanted, March 2, 2002.  VD's provide even more confusion, with Brenda mentioning that she had been around David Westerfield on a previous night while out "partying" and telling him "if I can get a babysitter, maybe Friday"!!  So much for just selling Girl Scout Cookies to the guy!!!

12.    Recent developments that Damon VD was "entertaining" a friend, while home babysitting the kiddies on the night of Danielle's abduction....


 

WHO IS RICK ROBERTS’ HIGH-PLACED LAW ENFORCEMENT SOURCE???

The comments of Rick Roberts source (a high placed law enforcement official) are in bold type. Additional information from other sources (press, etc.) are in italics.alt

David Westerfield has been quoted in the press as saying that he was a friend of the van Dams.


Is It Graham???

The van Dams have denied this, stating that their only contact with him was when Brenda and Danielle came to his home to sell girl scout cookies, and when they exchanged greeting as they passed by.Jeff Dusek

The bar has been identified in the press as "Dad’s Café and Steak House."

David Westerfield openly admitted that he was at the bar that night. He claims that he danced with Brenda van Dam. Brenda denies this.


37 posted on 03/12/2002 8:47:16 PM PST by FresnoDA
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To: Jaded
How did he get her body (alive or dead) from his house to his motorhome or SUV during daylight hours saturday morning? Why go to park that has park rangers not some isolated place? What caused the child to bleed is a good question..only drops but one drop on her beanbag chair in her room three presumptive blood drops in stairwell of VD house,3" long smear near garage...one 1/4 drop in motorhome, one 2-3 mm drop on front curtain in motorhome...drag marks, was she chloroformed or some such or did he keep one hand or tape/gag over her mouth and drag her while she was fighting?

Things I find compelling against DW..took black t shirt,black sweater and black pants to cleaners along with green casual jacket..(good nightime stealth clothes) wallet story doesn't match park rangers, no reason to lie except to hide something, not likely a mistake...cuts on hands, could be innocent but definately not planted...(could entice someone to plant evidence though if they thought he was guilty)...added all together....meandering trip, returned home saturday afternoon (ws she dead then?)...also since his motorhome was not there till 9am if VDs were to frame him could they have gotten in while he was loading to put drops of blood in motorhome/jacket? fingerprints are hard to plant without subject but can be done(just find her prints, scotch tape them then put them on fp card (not likely)

clearly if he did it he was clumsy stupid and totally inept...I thought engineers with immaculate houses were analy retentive and paid attention to details...if he did it probably at the spur of the moment when he thought Damon wasn't home and Brenda was soused from drinking all night or not yet home (would he enter thinking a babysitter was there or wait?)....probably entered after swingers left around 3:30 am ...unlikely planned much in advance..JMHO......

can't wait to hear if Brenda/danielle was in motorhome...no testimony from pd about dancing with DVD..what happened to that?

41 posted on 03/12/2002 9:07:06 PM PST by rolling_stone
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To: Jaded
"I vote for accessory after the fact."

It's one of the few scenarios that makes any sense whatever.

65 posted on 03/13/2002 5:58:56 AM PST by MizSterious
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