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To: bigdakine
What you cannot get into your wooden head is you are trying to disprove I.D. by a computer program that was designed by someone intelligent...unless it was written by you, which would then make me believe that random meaningless noise could produce something worthwhile.

Far as math goes, you give me something like Maxwell's equations which describe the electromagnetic force with sheer elegance...that describe the force? field? particles? great sucking sound? great pumpkin? of evolution, kay?

None of this population statistics and the other nonsense that explains NOTHING, that evolutionary biologists trot out as meaning anything. Some equations that can be worked with specific inputs and produce SPECIES! Or what? Maybe it is all too complex for that? What would that be called?...a process that is too complex to be described mathematically, what could we call that? Something Special? Hmmmm ( cue tone of SNL Church Lady)

I am glad most of you idiots don't design bridges or anything useful.
925 posted on 12/22/2004 3:39:38 PM PST by Jehu
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To: Jehu

What you cannot get into your wooden head is you are trying to disprove I.D. by a computer program that was designed by someone intelligent...unless it was written by you, which would then make me believe that random meaningless noise could produce something worthwhile.

B: Hilarious. The algorithm is what nature uses. Its the same design, same basic process, different context. If you understood anything at all about mathematics, and a competent engineer would (that leaves you out), mathematics is independent of context.


Far as math goes, you give me something like Maxwell's equations which describe the electromagnetic force with sheer elegance...that describe the force? field? particles? great sucking sound? great pumpkin? of evolution, kay?

B: ROFL. *Real* engineers use the algorithm. THere is no closed form solution for such stochastic methods. Again, if you had actual training in advanced mathematics, you'd know that. The algorithm works, and produces designs not understandable by humans. Hence when we see complex designs not fathomable to us in nature, we shouldn't be to surprised, given that at the heart of the *natural design* process, lurks stochastic algorithms.

None of this population statistics and the other nonsense that explains NOTHING, that evolutionary biologists trot out as meaning anything.


B: LOL.

Some equations that can be worked with specific inputs and produce SPECIES!

B: Interesting point. If we can't write an equation for it, it can't happen?

B: Creationism gets more nutty every day.



Or what? Maybe it is all too complex for that? What would that be called?...a process that is too complex to be described mathematically, what could we call that? Something Special? Hmmmm ( cue tone of SNL Church Lady)

B: THe process can be described mathematically, population geneticists have been doing for decades, and now mathematicians and engineers. We can't predict the weather more than a few days in advance, but this creatobabbler demands we should calculate "species".

B: Its clear that there are defects in the ways some engineers are educated.

I am glad most of you idiots don't design bridges or anything useful.

B: Yeah. OK. Perhaps you should retire from Matell's.


931 posted on 12/22/2004 4:39:41 PM PST by bigdakine
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To: Jehu
I am glad most of you idiots don't design bridges or anything useful.

LOL. As it happens I am a Civil Engineer. Does that frighten you? I hope so.

936 posted on 12/22/2004 11:19:14 PM PST by Thatcherite (Conservative and Biblical Literalist are not synonymous)
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