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DeLay Apologizes for Schiavo Case Rhetoric
AP via Yahoo ^ | April 13, 2005 | Terence Hunt

Posted on 04/13/2005 8:21:32 PM PDT by cyncooper

House Majority Leader Tom DeLay apologized Wednesday for using overheated rhetoric on the day Terri Schiavo died, but refused to say whether he supports impeachment of the judges who ruled in her case.

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At a crowded news conference in his Capitol office, DeLay addressed remarks he made in the hours after the brain-damaged Florida woman died on March 31. "I said something in an inartful way and I shouldn't have said it that way and I apologize for saying it that way," DeLay told reporters.

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DeLay seemed at pains to soften, if slightly, his rhetoric of March 31, when Schiavo died despite an extraordinary political and legal effort to save her life.

"I believe in an independent judiciary. I repeat, of course I believe in an independent judiciary," DeLay said.

At the same time, he added, the Constitution gives Congress power to oversee the courts.

"We set up the courts. We can unset the courts. We have the power of the purse," DeLay said.

Asked whether he favors impeachment for any of the judges in the Schiavo case, he did not answer directly.

Instead, he referred reporters to an earlier request he made to the House Judiciary Committee to look into "judicial activism" and Schiavo's case in particular.

~snip~

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TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: apology; cowardaceunderfire; delay; grovelingissafer; schiavo; thewormturns
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To: Sun

You are without a clue. Rhetoric doesn't make an argument.
There was no violation of the Constitution. There was no conspiracy by the ENTIRE judiciary to violate the Constitution.

Are you aware of just how crazy such contentions sound?


161 posted on 04/13/2005 10:18:05 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
A fifteen year old has better comebacks.

It wasn't supposed to be a comeback, just a statement of fact justshutupandtakeit. Didn't anyone ever explain to you that conceit is unseemly?

162 posted on 04/13/2005 10:19:01 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: lula
"You're talking socialism here."

You better believe it.

163 posted on 04/13/2005 10:19:32 PM PDT by Miss Behave (Beloved daughter of Miss Creant, super sister of danged Miss Ology, and proud mother of Miss Hap.)
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To: Freedom Dignity n Honor

There was no "murder" nor a "forced starvation" death. Death had been delayed for over a decade without any result. It was time to stop pretending.


164 posted on 04/13/2005 10:19:48 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: Freedom Dignity n Honor
Murder is never a private family issue.

What? There was a murder? I must have missed that charge.

165 posted on 04/13/2005 10:20:26 PM PDT by Cold Heat (This is not sarcasm)
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To: russesjunjee
They only disagree with each other on the surface to keep the people divided and conquered.

Bump!!

166 posted on 04/13/2005 10:20:35 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

Conceit is not the issue here. Overblown rhetoric and the unwillingness to face facts are.


167 posted on 04/13/2005 10:20:38 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: lula
So just who would be in charge of making those "real-world" decisions? This is the argument Hitler used.

1. Who pays?

2. How do you allocate limited resources?

3. If the family of a PVS patient cannot afford her care, do you think the government (i.e., the taxpayers) should pay for it?

4. If so, are you not, in fact, advocating socialized medicine?

5. In socialized medicine, who ends up making decisions on care, and the allocation of limited resources? That's right, government bureaucrats.

Like it or not, whether healthcare is government-run or private, there are finite resources. There are only so many dollars to pay for care. Decisions will be made -- by family, by insurance companies, or by the state -- as to how to allocate those resources.

168 posted on 04/13/2005 10:21:57 PM PDT by malakhi
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Not a forced starvation? Not a murder of an innocent woman?

I think that a small percentage of people live in an alternate universe from the rest of us.

What would you call it? "Dying with dignity"?

Judicially sanctioned extermination?

169 posted on 04/13/2005 10:22:04 PM PDT by Freedom Dignity n Honor
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To: Freedom Dignity n Honor

No, your point can only be argued if you call people nazis and death cultists and that they should wear a swastika. Which is why so many people are put off by the tactics of your side when it comes to making an argument. Hyperbole, invective and rhetoric are no substitution for logic and reasoning.


170 posted on 04/13/2005 10:23:29 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Remember when conservatives embraced the rule of law?)
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To: Cold Heat

That is their MO, keep calling it murder and maybe everyone will believe it. Saying it don't make it so.


171 posted on 04/13/2005 10:24:21 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Remember when conservatives embraced the rule of law?)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
And we are not speaking of "handicapped" people but people with nothing of life left but a semblence.

You have no idea what you're talking about. She was not a vegetable and over 33 doctors swore to that. Mentally she was at the level of a severely retarded person.

And even if someone is deemed a "vegetable" there is no conclusive scientific evidence that states he or she can never come back to life. There are known cases where those classified as brain dead did in fact recover, with some today living normal lives.

It's not our duty to kill anyone because the justshutupandtakeits of the world think it's their time and what they would have wanted anyway.

172 posted on 04/13/2005 10:26:51 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Cold Heat
Only if you've been in a cave the last few months.

What else do you call it when one intentionally cold bloodedly starves to death a human who is brain damaged but with a healthy body?

It's not "letting her go" or "dying with dignity".

And, of course, as you know, this is my opinion.

I want to see Schivao, Greer, Felos and any one else involved in the death of Terri to pay legally. Forfeiture of their freedom for life for this crime against humanity.

173 posted on 04/13/2005 10:27:04 PM PDT by Freedom Dignity n Honor
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To: Central Scrutiniser

Yes, repeat a lie 27,534 times and it always becomes true, in a BS sort of way.

I don't recall the exact number used in "A Brave New World".

But we have definately exceeded it here on this forum.


174 posted on 04/13/2005 10:27:16 PM PDT by Cold Heat (This is not sarcasm)
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To: COEXERJ145

Do you think the FL legis. will listen to me?

My phone bill is awfully high. They haven't listented to me in the past.

Wouldn't Judge Greer look better in orange, than in black though?


175 posted on 04/13/2005 10:28:00 PM PDT by Sun (Visit www.theEmpireJournal.com * Pray for Terri. Pray to end abortion.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit; Reaganwuzthebest
It became public when the family couldn't agree. I'm glad it did. We never would have known on what scale this had been going on.

If you were to have followed this case you would know she was not PVS. That is what ONE doctor diagnosed. This same doctor diagnosed another patient a policeman who is now walking and talking.

Who are you to decide the worth of anyone?

This WAS a case of JUDICIAL MURDER.

Tom Delay should have said the things he said. The GOP should have backed him 100%

176 posted on 04/13/2005 10:28:46 PM PDT by lula (Starving the disabled is OK, go to jail if you do the same to an animal...go figure)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

READ the Constitution and the Bill of Rights and then get back to me. I'm embarrassed for you.


177 posted on 04/13/2005 10:29:28 PM PDT by Sun (Visit www.theEmpireJournal.com * Pray for Terri. Pray to end abortion.)
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To: Petronski
BIG bump.
178 posted on 04/13/2005 10:29:32 PM PDT by Miss Behave (Beloved daughter of Miss Creant, super sister of danged Miss Ology, and proud mother of Miss Hap.)
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To: Central Scrutiniser
You know exactly what I said.

If you don't want to be compared to the Nazis or to Hitler then why do you insist on advocating their beliefs and practices?

I didn't call anyone a Nazi as such but said that they shouldn't be upset to be called one when they clearly advocate some of the most heinous crimes of the Nazis and Hitler.

179 posted on 04/13/2005 10:29:47 PM PDT by Freedom Dignity n Honor
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To: justshutupandtakeit; Sun
You are without a clue. Rhetoric doesn't make an argument.

Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain Sun, it's all smoke and mirrors.

180 posted on 04/13/2005 10:30:12 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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