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April 14, 1865 President Lincoln Shot
History Channel.com ^ | 4/14/2005 | staff

Posted on 04/14/2005 6:40:53 PM PDT by kellynla

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To: Kenny Bunkport

Whatever happened to the Spielberg movie about Lincoln?
It seemed to have fizzled.....


41 posted on 04/14/2005 7:40:18 PM PDT by TexConfederate1861 (Still Free........Republic!)
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To: conservlib
***The south does not like Lincoln.***

Please clarify that you are speaking for your own personal "south".

42 posted on 04/14/2005 7:41:39 PM PDT by daybreakcoming ("Courage is being scared to death -- and saddling up anyway." - John Wayne)
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To: TexConfederate1861
Look, I was not there to witness Lincoln do his deed, but I am reminded of Gorbachev when he faced many requests from some of his member states to be independent, he let them go without firing one shot.
44 posted on 04/14/2005 7:43:44 PM PDT by conservlib
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To: conservlib
I know that Lincoln closed many newspapers, and arrested judges, and congressmen who opposed his policies.

Don't forget to mention "shut down the Maryland legislature."

45 posted on 04/14/2005 7:44:19 PM PDT by PistolPaknMama (Will work for cool tag line.)
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To: daybreakcoming

He can certainly speak for TEXAS, as far as I am concerned.......or have you forgotten that 70,000 Texans fought for Gen. Lee?


46 posted on 04/14/2005 7:44:40 PM PDT by TexConfederate1861 (Still Free........Republic!)
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To: daybreakcoming

Look, I was not there to witness Lincoln do his deed, but I am reminded of Gorbachev when he faced many requests from some of his member states to be independent, he let them go without firing one shot.


47 posted on 04/14/2005 7:44:56 PM PDT by conservlib
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To: mass55th
In actuality, Dr. Mudd had met Booth 2-3 times prior to the assassination.

You were there?

48 posted on 04/14/2005 7:46:20 PM PDT by PistolPaknMama (Will work for cool tag line.)
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To: conservlib

Imagine a newspaper in 1942 advocating violent resistance to the US government to support governments the US was at war with. Surely you don't think such a newspaper should have been allowed to remain in operation?

That was the situation in 1862, except that the US was much closer to being destroyed than at any time in the 1940s.

Or, if you prefer, imagine a 1969 in which violent armed Communist rebellion against the US government is underway. Many hundreds of thousands of Americans have already been killed. A newspaper in your town is publishing exhortations to join the rebels and to sabotage government efforts against it. Do you allow them to continue to publish?

Also, have you ever looked up how the founding fathers, those who wrote the Constitution, dealt with the "traitorous" Tories? They had a much sharper approach than Lincoln ever did.

I think those who object to Lincoln's treatment of oppositionists, which was certainly much gentler than Wilson's treatment of his opponents in WWI, do so primarily because they sympathize with their cause.


49 posted on 04/14/2005 7:46:32 PM PDT by Restorer
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To: PistolPaknMama

All I know is if Bush would ever do any of these things he will be castrated and then hanged.


50 posted on 04/14/2005 7:46:46 PM PDT by conservlib
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To: conservlib

Lincoln obviously had other motives in mind.....subjugating the South for one......


51 posted on 04/14/2005 7:47:00 PM PDT by TexConfederate1861 (Still Free........Republic!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I have been looking for a list of Reagan's Presidential Pardons. I need to verify one that I heard about in my travels. Do you know of any such list online?


52 posted on 04/14/2005 7:47:47 PM PDT by yankeedog (I wasn't born in the South, but I got here as soon as I could.)
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To: kellynla
Booth, pursued by the army and secret service forces, was finally cornered in a barn near Bowling Green, Virginia, and died from a possibly self-inflicted bullet wound as the barn was burned to the ground.

So when did the self-inflicted theory arise? History has long given credit to Sgt. Boston Corbett, a figure tenfold more whacko than Booth.

Boston Corbett: Hero or Madman?
53 posted on 04/14/2005 7:48:10 PM PDT by Bars4Bill
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To: Restorer

That is true to a point. If Lincoln had just allowed the South to leave, there would have been no war. The South seceded, they weren't trying to overthrow the US Government.


54 posted on 04/14/2005 7:49:22 PM PDT by TexConfederate1861 (Still Free........Republic!)
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To: kellynla; All

I've been to Ford's Theater many times.

Anybody have an opinion on what would have happened if Lincoln had been assassinated while the war was still on?


55 posted on 04/14/2005 7:50:16 PM PDT by Vision (When Hillary Says She's Going To Put The Military On Our Borders...She Becomes Our Next President)
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To: Restorer
Imagine a newspaper in 1942 advocating violent resistance to the US government to support governments the US was at war with. Surely you don't think such a newspaper should have been allowed to remain in operation?

That is hogwash, and you know it. During the Vietnam war, we were losing thousands of soldiers, and 95% of our media were OPENLY against our government. During WWII, there was an Isolationist party that did not want us in the European war, and no paper was closed. Communists professors openly criticized our government and were never arrested.

56 posted on 04/14/2005 7:51:18 PM PDT by conservlib
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To: TexConfederate1861

as I said three times already, I did not live during that time. All I have here is comparison of what standard we are expecting from Bush, and that should apply to all other presidents. A dictator would arrest the oppositions!


57 posted on 04/14/2005 7:53:57 PM PDT by conservlib
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To: TexConfederate1861

If Britain and France had allowed Germany to conquer Poland, there wouldn't have been a war in 1939.

If the colonies had submitted to George III, there wouldn't have been a war in 1775.

If the US had allowed Iraq to keep Kuwait in 1989, there wouldn't have been a war.

The whole argument was about whether the South had the right to secede. Of course if they had not been opposed, there would have been no war.


58 posted on 04/14/2005 7:56:24 PM PDT by Restorer
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To: Restorer

The way I look at it, the right of secession is still an interesting subject. If the states still have that right, which I believe they do, in theory, if Hillary wins the next election, the red states can just secede....:)

And if they did indeed have the right of secession, then Lincoln was wrong.


60 posted on 04/14/2005 7:59:47 PM PDT by TexConfederate1861 (Still Free........Republic!)
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