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April 14, 1865 President Lincoln Shot
History Channel.com ^ | 4/14/2005 | staff

Posted on 04/14/2005 6:40:53 PM PDT by kellynla

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To: conservlib
All I know is if Bush would ever do any of these things he will be castrated and then hanged.

Really? By whom?? Some idiot judge in Podunk USA ignored a congressional subpoena and as a result an innocent woman dies. Where is the judge now? Hydrating himself, having dinner and continuing his life, liberty and pursuit of happiness.

If no criminal charges have been brought against the white trash that occupied the white house from 1992 on, nobody has the gonads to impeach anybody, much less castrate or hang them. Forget about "checks and balances." We are now full throttle into one big free for all. God help us.

61 posted on 04/14/2005 8:01:34 PM PDT by PistolPaknMama (Will work for cool tag line.)
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To: conservlib
During the Vietnam war, we were losing thousands of soldiers

Oddly enough, I don't recall massive fighting 20 miles from Washington. Surely even you don't think the US government was fighting for its life in Vietnam.

and 95% of our media were OPENLY against our government.

Reasonably accurate, though hyperbolic.

During WWII, there was an Isolationist party that did not want us in the European war, and no paper was closed.

Nope, the isolationists were not a Party, they were a movement, and they disappeared on December 7. They had already been dwindling for some time before that.

Communists professors openly criticized our government and were never arrested.

Now there's some hogwash for you. The minute Hitler invaded USSR, some months before Pearl Harbor, the Commies became the biggest advocates of the US entering the War.

People were not arrested and jailed for criticizing Lincoln. They were arrested and jailed for the crime of sedition or other applicable crimes.

I noticed you managed to leave out WWI, when people were indeed jailed for criticizine the president or the government, and with much less justification than in the 1860s. WWI was no life and death struggle for the US.

62 posted on 04/14/2005 8:08:05 PM PDT by Restorer
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To: Bars4Bill

Cobit was mad as a hatter which he was in civilian life.

It was due to the mercury used in the process.


63 posted on 04/14/2005 8:08:22 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems.)
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To: TexConfederate1861

You open fire on American troops, you reap the whirlwind.


64 posted on 04/14/2005 8:10:58 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems.)
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To: TexConfederate1861
And if they did indeed have the right of secession, then Lincoln was wrong.

As I understand it, any state could have taken a suit direct to the Supreme Court to determine this. No state chose to do so, largely due to internal politics of forcing waverers to join the secessionists. Instead, they chose to wage war on the federal government.

They didn't want a peaceful secession of a few of the Deep South states, which is all they would have got that way. Such a Confederacy would have been unsustainable. They wanted violent emotions to be inflamed which would lead moderates to spring to the defense of their "brothers."

Worked, too, almost well enough to win the war.

65 posted on 04/14/2005 8:12:59 PM PDT by Restorer
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To: Finalapproach29er

I think FDR died on April 12 but I could be wrong.


66 posted on 04/14/2005 8:17:45 PM PDT by Ticonderoga34
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To: Shooter 2.5

Both sides were American Troops....and if I recall, at Manassas, Chancellorsville, Fredricksburg, Cold Harbor, etc. The whirlwind was tinted GRAY!


67 posted on 04/14/2005 8:21:14 PM PDT by TexConfederate1861 (Still Free........Republic!)
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To: buckeyesrule
The confederate Loonies are gonna come out now. They love this day!

Some people just can't move on after 140 years. Too bad they can't realize that President Lincoln was the best friend the South had in Washington. His death resulted in Reconstruction being just as damaging as the war itself.

68 posted on 04/14/2005 8:21:24 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Just Blame President Bush For Everything, It Is Easier Than Using Your Brain)
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To: Restorer

Read my post on Ft. Sumter, from a few days ago...it gives a very interesting and neutral perspective.


69 posted on 04/14/2005 8:22:48 PM PDT by TexConfederate1861 (Still Free........Republic!)
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To: TXBubba
I never knew that Lincoln was shot and the Titanic sank on the same day (not year) until tonight on FR.

The Titanic hit the iceberg on the 14th and sank on the 15th.

70 posted on 04/14/2005 8:23:31 PM PDT by NYFreeper
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To: COEXERJ145

You oughta be ASHAMED. Sully Ross is probably turning over in his grave.

Lincoln was NO friend to Texas. I prefer to remember the 70,000 Texans who served under General Lee....or the 540 or so that DIED in Miller's Cornfield at Sharpsburg.


71 posted on 04/14/2005 8:25:41 PM PDT by TexConfederate1861 (Still Free........Republic!)
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To: TexConfederate1861
Perhaps you need to stop living in the 19th centruy.
72 posted on 04/14/2005 8:27:16 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Just Blame President Bush For Everything, It Is Easier Than Using Your Brain)
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To: COEXERJ145

Buddy: I don't live in the 19th Century. I am a Texan that hasn't forgotten what sacrifices Texans made for their Constitutional rights. Maybe you should learn a little of the history of our great State, and be a little less PC.


73 posted on 04/14/2005 8:30:16 PM PDT by TexConfederate1861 (Still Free........Republic!)
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To: GOPcapitalist; stainlessbanner; lentulusgracchus

Calling for all Loyal Southrons PING!


74 posted on 04/14/2005 8:35:56 PM PDT by TexConfederate1861 (Still Free........Republic!)
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To: TexConfederate1861
I think that serious consideration should be given to seccession again. The USA seems to not stand for the goodness it once did. Political correctness and massive wealth transfer payments have paralyzed the "helpers" and the "helped", and neither did either.

As for forgetting "after 140 years": there were far too many dastardly atrocities committed against unarmed, innocent Southern citizenry, both black and white. To this day, the deeds of units from Ohio, Illinois, and especially the murderous units from Indiana I believe place them in hell for what they did.

Not a lot gets said about this, but there are plenty of records of war crimes upon war crimes by these consciousless, heartless thugs, rapists, thieves, and murderers.

Don't ever forget, Texas (and Louisiana, Arkansas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia, Florida, South Carolina, North Carolina, Virginia..) Never forget these murderous devils or their crimes.

Secession? I am still for it. It may take a number of decades to accuate the start of it, but I believe a new country is the only solution to what is left here.

75 posted on 04/14/2005 8:53:29 PM PDT by Sweet Southern Freedom
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To: TexConfederate1861
Lincoln was NO friend to Texas.

Sam Houston didn't think too highly of him, IIRC.

76 posted on 04/14/2005 8:56:21 PM PDT by rustbucket
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To: TexConfederate1861

Are you real? Are you like a ghost from the past? There is no way someone believe in confederacy anymore, or is there?


77 posted on 04/14/2005 9:02:50 PM PDT by jveritas (The Left cannot win a national election ever again.)
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To: kellynla

Holy Smokes! Why isn't this in Breaking News??

Then again: no flashing light on Drudge.


78 posted on 04/14/2005 9:10:18 PM PDT by streetpreacher (God DOES exist; He's just not into you!)
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To: conservlib

You gotta' be kiddin' me. One attack from without (as bad as it is) is nothing compared to an etire nation at war with itself. No one has had to endure what Lincoln did.


79 posted on 04/14/2005 9:12:56 PM PDT by streetpreacher (God DOES exist; He's just not into you!)
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To: Restorer
As I understand it, any state could have taken a suit direct to the Supreme Court to determine this. No state chose to do so, largely due to internal politics of forcing waverers to join the secessionists. Instead, they chose to wage war on the federal government.

The Supreme Court can't rule on a sovereign act of a state, which is what secession by a vote of the people of a state represents. I am reminded in this of the 1823 words of John Taylor, leading constitutional scholar and a participant in the ratification of the Constitution.

In the creation of the federal government, the states exercised the highest act of sovereignty, and they may, if they please, repeat the proof of their sovereignty, by its annihilation. But the union possesses no innate sovereignty, like the states; it was not self-constituted; it is conventional, and of course subordinate to the sovereignties by which it was formed.

The sovereignties which imposed the limitations upon the federal government, far from supposing that they perished by the exercise of a part of their faculties, were vindicated, by reserving powers in which their deputy, the federal government, could not participate; and the usual right of sovereigns to alter or revoke its commissions.

80 posted on 04/14/2005 9:14:20 PM PDT by rustbucket
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