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Schiavo autopsy shows no sign of trauma, brain half normal size
AP ^ | June 15 2005

Posted on 06/15/2005 8:33:35 AM PDT by george wythe

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To: .38sw

We did have a good time. I was going to make dessert but one of them insisted on bringing a home made carrot cake. I just ran over half the cake to my dessert buddy down the street because I just CANNOT have that much cake in the house. LOL


381 posted on 06/17/2005 7:48:59 AM PDT by Peach
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To: presently no screen name

Thank you -- I think.


382 posted on 06/17/2005 9:08:55 AM PDT by T'wit (My favorite bioethicists: Ted Bundy, Ed Gein, Jeffrey Dahmer, Ilse Koch, Pol Pot and Ronald Cranford)
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To: Peach
>> I just ran over half the cake

Oh, no! What a terrible fate for a carrot cake! Did it survive?

383 posted on 06/17/2005 9:10:08 AM PDT by T'wit (My favorite bioethicists: Ted Bundy, Ed Gein, Jeffrey Dahmer, Ilse Koch, Pol Pot and Ronald Cranford)
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To: T'wit

LOL


384 posted on 06/17/2005 9:17:58 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Miss Behave
Well said Miss! You are a class act to not use the vile, name calling ploy this little group is so proud of and resorts to each and every day, on every thread, on every topic.

OF course if anyone says the word Nazi then they want the whole forum closed down.

I , frankly ,am tired of the hysteria they show and obsession that drives them over the issue of Terri.

If they aren't interested, why do they care what we say?

Do they have a point other than the judge is all powerful and the fact that they want to stop people from voicing their opinions? What the heck are they so frightened of?

385 posted on 06/17/2005 10:15:25 AM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross (Code pink stinks!)
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To: Jackson57
Don't let the WPPFF aka Wild Turkeys get to you. :)

I look at them as a weird kind of comedic relief.

If we get bogged down with them then we can't do what's important.

Tell me, has the Terri Schivao case given us a glimpse of what is allegedly going on in FL?

Lure senior citizens down there, get someone like a lawyer to be their guardian, sell their homes off to shell businesses for 1/3 of their worth (to be later sold to others at market value), deplete their bank accoutns then stick them in a hospice and kill them?

386 posted on 06/17/2005 7:25:31 PM PDT by Freedom Dignity n Honor (There are permanent moral truths.)
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To: george wythe

She could have run for office as a Dem then!


387 posted on 06/18/2005 12:34:44 PM PDT by zzen01
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To: Dave S

I never realized so many people had so much schooling in anatomy. I'm amazed that there are so many qualified to immediately dismiss any opinion, including the opinion of the person who opened her head and actually saw her brain, when they did not. Just so many know for a fact the brain shrinks in half with dehydration.


388 posted on 06/18/2005 12:47:10 PM PDT by DaGman
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To: Jackson57
Yea, but McCabe is now going to 'investigate'.... yea thats the word... 'investigate' the Schiavo collapse that night, and the actions of his employees in the 15 years following that event!

see the 'future useless McCabe® report'!


389 posted on 06/18/2005 1:56:36 PM PDT by Future Useless Eater (formerly FL_Engineer) (It was wrong to kill her. No other "facts" matter.-JimRobinson)
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oops, try again... the 'future useless McCabe® report'!

http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424640/posts?page=132#132

390 posted on 06/18/2005 1:59:17 PM PDT by Future Useless Eater (formerly FL_Engineer) (It was wrong to kill her. No other "facts" matter.-JimRobinson)
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To: DaGman
Just so many know for a fact the brain shrinks in half with dehydration.

Truly amazing. They dont seem to get the difference between shrinkage and disappearance. It wasnt that Terri's brain got dehyrdated and shrunk, big chunks of it were totally gone according to the x-ray or scan done years ago. They seem totally willing to grasp at anything to believe that given just a "nuge" of therapy she would have been up dancing and talking up a storm. After all, didnt the Schindlers say she spoke clearly when they were going to take the feeding tube out. The Schindlers wouldnt lie to save their daughter would they? Duh.

391 posted on 06/18/2005 2:03:53 PM PDT by Dave S
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To: T'wit
That silly Nobel nomination dispute does not make him a "charlatan," either. By using that term, you have questioned his professional credentials.

The silly doctor by using the silly Noble nomination ruse brought into question his own credentials. And the willingness of some to continue to use the Noble nomination as support after it was known that anyone on this forum could just as easily make the same claim shows their desparation or gulibility.

392 posted on 06/18/2005 2:06:55 PM PDT by Dave S
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To: presently no screen name
Any idea where the info came from that she consumed one gram of caffeine daily and that she had an eating disorder?

PRobably came from the lawsuit.

393 posted on 06/18/2005 2:07:47 PM PDT by Dave S
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To: Dave S
I admire your logic. I love your logic. Your logic will benefit all of mankind. I was just about to nominate you for a "Noble" prize in logic, but -- oh, no! I'm not the Nobel committee, so if I nominated you, that must mean your credentials are lousy and you are a charlatan.

Now, I certainly don't want to say any such thing or make you angry, so I'll just tiptoe out and never tell anyone how good your work is.

A very silly argument.

P.S. It IS spelled "Nobel," y'know.

394 posted on 06/18/2005 5:35:10 PM PDT by T'wit (My favorite bioethicists: Ted Bundy, Ed Gein, Jeffrey Dahmer, Ilse Koch, Pol Pot and Ronald Cranford)
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To: T'wit
I admire your logic. I love your logic. Your logic will benefit all of mankind. I was just about to nominate you for a "Noble" prize in logic, but -- oh, no! I'm not the Nobel committee, so if I nominated you, that must mean your credentials are lousy and you are a charlatan.

Nice try but what is wrong with your analogy is I didnt ask you to nominate me but the good charlatan doctor did ask the politician to do so and then He, the charlatan doctor, promoted the nomination as thought it had some meaning. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

395 posted on 06/18/2005 9:48:12 PM PDT by Dave S
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To: Dave S
It still has nothing to do with his medical credentials.

It has to do with his vanity, maybe, if your version of the story is true. (I heard a different story but have no first-hand information which version is so, if either is.)

Now, why should we suppose the politician would go along with such a scheme if the doctor's work didn't have merit? He doesn't want to be a laughingstock. If he's going to put his reputation on the line for the doctor, the presumption must be that he approves of or admires the doctor's work. And there we are back at square one. The "nomination" is a compliment, even if it didn't go through channels.

Certainly hyperbaric medicine is a recognized and growing field of medicine. It usually concerns diving, of course, but Dr. Hammersfahr may well be exactly right that it may offer hope for some patients with brain damage.

396 posted on 06/19/2005 11:34:54 AM PDT by T'wit (T'wit's Fourth Law: Liberals are always wrong, even when they come down on both sides of the issue.)
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To: Dave S
I've just been poking around some of the literature. It's fun for me because one of the leading lights in the field -- referenced over and over -- is from my home town and was an usher at my brother's wedding.

Here's an interesting page: Conference on hyperbaric medicine (2004)

Dr. Hammesfahr is a member of the symposium in good standing and we even get a little light on the Nobel business. Quote, "Dr. Hammesfahr’s careful use of vasodilators and his excellent results have resulted in a proposal for Nobel Prize nomination. This is extremely important information and its applications are synergistic with hyperbaric oxygen therapy."

"A proposal for" a Nobel nomination. This is careful and correct wording. There was no impropriety here. Dr. Hammesfahr's peers approved this statement and honored him with a role in the symposium. He is clearly a fine doctor.

397 posted on 06/19/2005 12:15:36 PM PDT by T'wit (T'wit's Fourth Law: Liberals are always wrong, even when they come down on both sides of the issue.)
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To: T'wit
Now, why should we suppose the politician would go along with such a scheme if the doctor's work didn't have merit?

Come on now. This is political site. You cant honestly say you dont know why a politician would write a worthless letter of recommendation to the Nobel Committee other than the Doctor's work had merit? :-)

398 posted on 06/19/2005 2:55:45 PM PDT by Dave S
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To: Dave S
>> This is political site.

That's why everybody knows these sleazy attacks on Dr. Hammesfahr are a smear.

399 posted on 06/19/2005 5:08:18 PM PDT by T'wit (T'wit's Fourth Law: Liberals are always wrong, even when they come down on both sides of the issue.)
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To: Buke

Does anyone know exactly what the conspiracy would be? What is being hidden, and for what purpose?

Liberals are pushing for euthanasia. They've pulled it off internationally and they want it here. It's part of the death culture that's become the modern democrat party.

400 posted on 06/22/2005 9:17:45 AM PDT by GOPJ (Deep Throat(s) -- top level FBI officials playing cub reporters for suckers.)
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