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To: Dolphy
I had noticed that difference in their accounts of Joran's behavior and wondered why.

I've thought perhaps Joran has some fear of Charles Croes and would behave differently with him. I can imagine CC asking questions in a calm, but direct manner. I've read some of CC's post on the Aruba website going back before Natalee disappeared. CC has a diplomatic, gracious, friendly style. He strives to represent the best of Aruba. If you've seen his interview with Greta, then you've seen his piercing eyes and the serious, professional manner. I think those are two sides of CC that we've seen. One is the Aruba business man and the other a go-to-man for local information with a bit of detective work.
I think there is more to CC than we know.

I know at one point that meeting at the VDS home became heated. If it was around this time when Beth confronted Joran, then Joran might have been past his 'good boy-I just want to help' routine and had become arrogantly irritated.


So if CC's conversation with Joran was before tempers flared and Beth's confrontation with Joran was during tempers flaring, that could explain the differing descriptions of Joran that night.

A thought on CC and Shango. Some have said Shango must be someone with inside info on other people's secrets, like a priest. I think a cell phone company owner might have some access to other peoples secrets, if he so desired. Whoever Shango is, he doesn't want to blow his cover. A cell phone company owner seems like a good cover and a good information highway all at the same time.
1,047 posted on 08/30/2005 11:30:43 PM PDT by RGVTx
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To: RGVTx
So if CC's conversation with Joran was before tempers flared and Beth's confrontation with Joran was during tempers flaring, that could explain the differing descriptions of Joran that night.

I think that's a likely scenario. Joran is no model citizen but there are many, many teenagers who would react as Beth described if accused or addressed in a heated manner. Of course I just read that CC may have been earlier arrested for hitting his wife...which, if true, would be a bit of a chink in the image of him as the cool, calm diplomat. In honor of cajungirl I will continue to believe he can leap tall buildings. :)

1,199 posted on 08/31/2005 9:00:12 PM PDT by Dolphy
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