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Mirecki hospitalized after beating (KU Relig. prof. who mocked religion)
Lawrence Journal World ^ | 12/05/05 | Ron Knox

Posted on 12/05/2005 8:13:08 PM PST by Will_Zurmacht

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To: sobieski

Leave comedy to the professionals, you aren't good at it.


201 posted on 12/06/2005 5:51:43 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Thatcherite

"Imposing a "King Billy" on the Irish Catholic Americans might be seen as unduly provocative."

I doubt it if the packaging is done correctly, Di's son the gorgeous..


202 posted on 12/06/2005 5:51:50 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: johnnyb_61820
"It would take a serious wuss to beat someone with a metal object and for them to only get away with scrapes and bruises."

A pie pan, maybe?

203 posted on 12/06/2005 5:52:54 AM PST by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: Right Wing Professor

I like the new tagline.


204 posted on 12/06/2005 5:53:08 AM PST by Thatcherite (F--ked in the afterlife, bullying feminized androgenous automaton euro-weenie blackguard)
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To: RadioAstronomer

I'll assume no. The Creationist scatologists are out in force today.


205 posted on 12/06/2005 5:53:30 AM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Right Wing Professor; Thatcherite
Imposing a "King Billy" on the Irish Catholic Americans might be seen as unduly provocative.
99% of them woudn't know who King Billy was. ;-)

There has been speculation the Charles will choose to reign as King George VII

No provocation there.

206 posted on 12/06/2005 5:54:31 AM PST by Oztrich Boy ( the Wedge Document ... offers a message of hope for Muslims - Mustafa Akyol)
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To: Just mythoughts; Right Wing Professor

Hmmm, maybe as a starting point "Schwarzenegger - Windsor 2008" as the GOP ticket.


207 posted on 12/06/2005 5:55:32 AM PST by Thatcherite (F--ked in the afterlife, bullying feminized androgenous automaton euro-weenie blackguard)
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To: Will_Zurmacht

It just goes to show ya that in this country we have free speech but you still have to pay for the consequences.


208 posted on 12/06/2005 5:56:16 AM PST by OB1kNOb (I'm gonna boogie oogie woogie til I just can't boogie no more..............)
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Another Creationist Explaining Away Violence Placemarker
209 posted on 12/06/2005 6:01:42 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Tench_Coxe

The leftist progressives of all stripes seem detirmined to push the majority of folk into an untenable position of either keeping to trasdtional values and being hideously derided for it or rejecting those values in the name of a Atheistic French style "Liberty, Equality, Fraternity" society. I think those who style them-selves as "moderates" including our pathetic RINO's sense the fight coming and are frantically trying to "negotiate" a make nice "middle ground" so that we can just all get along...they tend to bash Christians the hardest because Christian are supposed to be nice and peaceful and Christlike and all that "stuff".

There is a fight coming, and we'll all have to choose a side! There's been too much wind sewn, the whirlwind follows!


210 posted on 12/06/2005 6:04:19 AM PST by mdmathis6 (Proof against evolution:"Man is the only creature that blushes, or needs to" M.Twain)
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To: Thatcherite
"Hmmm, maybe as a starting point "Schwarzenegger - Windsor 2008" as the GOP ticket."


Not a chance, remember those Irish Catholics, well the "terminator's" first lady would not allow such folly. Even if it meant a reenactment of Camelot.
211 posted on 12/06/2005 6:05:27 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Morris_Hattrick
What a shining jewel this Christianity is...

Morris, perhaps you'd be happier in the Middle East?

212 posted on 12/06/2005 6:05:33 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: Emmett McCarthy

Who has the money to waste? That bet would be thrown away.


213 posted on 12/06/2005 6:06:02 AM PST by chesley (Liberals...what's not to loathe?)
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To: Will_Zurmacht

Holy Cow, I saw two guys in jeans in a pickup truck this morning. I'm gonna call that number. Oh wait, that was me and a friend.


214 posted on 12/06/2005 6:06:14 AM PST by SwankyC (1st Bn 11th Marines Semper Fi)
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To: Ben Chad

Repeat: No REAL Christians would do that.

I don't care what he SAYS or what he belongs to. Why is it that when some criminal does something that the ONLY area that everyone chooses to believe him on is a *profession* of faith, like he's telling the truth. Come on, anyone who would do something like THAT would not think twice about lying about being a Christian. Instead of looking at a situation like this and saying, "See, that's what being a Christian will do to you." (like what has been said to me), how 'bout people just respond with, "Yeah, right." and not believe him?


215 posted on 12/06/2005 6:08:30 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: AZ_Cowboy

I don't understand. You think liberals are 'in their right mind'? Seems improbable to me.


216 posted on 12/06/2005 6:08:57 AM PST by chesley (Liberals...what's not to loathe?)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

Big difference between being a Christian and being a "professing" Christian. Talk is cheap.


217 posted on 12/06/2005 6:10:13 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
I did see this thread...and unfortunately/fortunately I was so angry at some of those same posts I didnt want to reply to any of it.

Thanks for putting into words my thoughts on this terrible situation.

Only small minded folks extend blanket accusations to entire groups of people over a single incident.

It disappoints me to know so many Freepers use this to turn against each other.
218 posted on 12/06/2005 6:10:34 AM PST by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
How sad that some frevolutionists are exploiting this man's injuries to promote their own agenda against creationists.

How sad several FReepers have opined on this thread that he wasn't beaten enough. You remind me of CAIR; when Islamic terrorists commit some new outrage, they're more concerned that people not associate it with Islam, than doping anything about their co-religionists who are busy cheering the terrorists on.

I guess fundies are fundies though, and the specific details of the deity are unimportant.

219 posted on 12/06/2005 6:12:42 AM PST by Right Wing Professor (...overthrow the Dutch usurper, and restore the Jacobites!)
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To: Emmett McCarthy

Bash Christians AND get another 15 minutes - he just couldn't resist.


220 posted on 12/06/2005 6:13:54 AM PST by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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To: JCEccles
just a liberal out trolling for some cheap victim-love.

I love the way you put that. :D

221 posted on 12/06/2005 6:16:07 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: wallcrawlr; DaveLoneRanger; Right Wing Professor
Only small minded folks extend blanket accusations to entire groups of people over a single incident.

Care to comment on this post by Fester?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1534152/posts?page=504#504

"Actually, what it looks like is that the position of all materialists and evolutionists is scientifically and morally bankrupt. Look, the guy lost a tooth. He was beaten severely. That proves beyond question evolutionists and materialists are plumb dumb and wrong. It also proves that you had best repent before the rest of us fundies don red baseball hats and wool gloves. Deal with it. Be sure to check the bushes outside before you go to sleep."

223 posted on 12/06/2005 6:17:52 AM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: Right Wing Professor
I guess fundies are fundies though, and the specific details of the deity are unimportant.

Perhaps they'd be happier in the Middle East

224 posted on 12/06/2005 6:18:06 AM PST by Oztrich Boy ( the Wedge Document ... offers a message of hope for Muslims - Mustafa Akyol)
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To: SwankyC

Were you in Kansas, is the real question.


225 posted on 12/06/2005 6:18:10 AM PST by sausageseller (Look out for the jackbooted spelling police. There! Everywhere!(revised cause the "man" accosted me!)
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To: Right Wing Professor
doping

doing.

(Or maybe not.)

226 posted on 12/06/2005 6:18:10 AM PST by Right Wing Professor (...overthrow the Dutch usurper, and restore the Jacobites!)
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To: Right Wing Professor

Is it any different than what normally happens here? A creationist says that slavery is perfectly moral, and no other creationist comes forth to say he is an idiot. Instead we get attacked for calling him out on it. Then another creationist posts a racist quote from a banned author on his homepage; and no creationist attacks the quote but instead whine's about US picking on the poor guy. Now there is a story of an evolutionist getting beat up and when some creationists cheer the attack, the others whine about the association of Creationism and violence. Never condemning those doing the cheering.

I think the pattern is obvious, and telling.


227 posted on 12/06/2005 6:19:23 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Will_Zurmacht

Fake But Accurate


228 posted on 12/06/2005 6:20:06 AM PST by gridlock (eliminate perverse incentives)
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To: RadioAstronomer

Well, you know my comment. It's the guys who are most adamant they're not descended from pond scum that behave most like their ancestor.


229 posted on 12/06/2005 6:20:30 AM PST by Right Wing Professor (...overthrow the Dutch usurper, and restore the Jacobites!)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
and telling.

Indeed it is.

230 posted on 12/06/2005 6:20:42 AM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: Right Wing Professor

I am with ya.


232 posted on 12/06/2005 6:21:21 AM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: metmom
Why is it that when some criminal does something that the ONLY area that everyone chooses to believe him on is a *profession* of faith, like he's telling the truth.

The only area? You must be new here. Watch what happens next time some criminal tries to blame his criminality on, say, pornography. Watch how many people right here on this board rush to believe him. Bonus points for you if you spot posters who make the same complaint as you do here, but then support such a claim later on.

233 posted on 12/06/2005 6:22:31 AM PST by Senator Bedfellow (Sneering condescension.)
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To: Right Wing Professor

. . . it's that other 1% ya gotta watch out for . . .

234 posted on 12/06/2005 6:28:57 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: sausageseller
Were you in Kansas, is the real question. I dont remember where I was. I completely blanked out last night and then woke up in my bed.
235 posted on 12/06/2005 6:30:49 AM PST by SwankyC (1st Bn 11th Marines Semper Fi)
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To: SwankyC

I think I left the italic </I> on.


236 posted on 12/06/2005 6:31:43 AM PST by SwankyC (1st Bn 11th Marines Semper Fi)
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To: RadioAstronomer; Right Wing Professor

FYI: I am adament I'm not descended from pond scum.

wallcrawlr = Christian

Think what you want of me. I'm big enough to handle it and my ego is small enough not to care.


The difference is in the maturity level of the discussion. I choose not to go into serious namecalling fests. Thats not how I want to represent myself on Fr. Others obviously have a different way.

This is one of those threads thats become an embarrasment to Fr. No matter what side of the topic you are on. Few have taken the high ground, many have decided to take this article and use it to "beat up" on each other.


237 posted on 12/06/2005 6:32:46 AM PST by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com)
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To: SwankyC
Is that your story?

And are you sticking to it?

238 posted on 12/06/2005 6:33:15 AM PST by sausageseller (Look out for the jackbooted spelling police. There! Everywhere!(revised cause the "man" accosted me!)
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To: Morris_Hattrick

Your comment was:

" What a shining jewel this Christianity is..."

Sounds like an indictment of Christianity to me. It has no place in Free Republic. If you harbor these feelings you should keep them to yourself.

Out of curiosity is there any religion you do profess or at least respect?


239 posted on 12/06/2005 6:40:47 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: RadioAstronomer

Not necessarily. Perhaps you would care to comment on what RightWingProfessor said to me. It's on my profile. Flames take place both ways. I'll keep myself clean, and you keep yourself clean, and we'll be just fine.

You should also check out what people (not creationists, just healthy skeptics) are saying on this thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1534754/posts

Also, see what I wrote about the incident:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1534692/posts?page=166#166


240 posted on 12/06/2005 6:41:44 AM PST by DaveLoneRanger ("As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free, while God is marching on.")
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To: wallcrawlr

No guy. Simply washing your hands of it won't get them clean. Only one side is advocating violence here. Only one. There is no moral equivalence.


241 posted on 12/06/2005 6:41:46 AM PST by Right Wing Professor (...overthrow the Dutch usurper, and restore the Jacobites!)
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To: wallcrawlr
This is one of those threads thats become an embarrasment to Fr.

We are in complete agreement here. Re - Chester et al.

Think what you want of me.

I do not think badly of you. Never have, never will. I don't agree with your positiopn on evolution, but that is already a given. :-)

242 posted on 12/06/2005 6:42:05 AM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: Will_Zurmacht
"I’m mostly shaken up, and I got some bruises and sore spots," he said.

Much better than being beheaded.

243 posted on 12/06/2005 6:42:05 AM PST by A. Pole (The Law of Comparative Advantage: "Americans should not have children and should not go to college")
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To: DaveLoneRanger

I did read. And you don't see me doing much flaming.

I just wanted your opinion of that post.


244 posted on 12/06/2005 6:43:59 AM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Dave, Dave, do mention that this was after you equated evolution with advocacy of pediophilia.


245 posted on 12/06/2005 6:44:34 AM PST by Right Wing Professor (...overthrow the Dutch usurper, and restore the Jacobites!)
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To: Right Wing Professor

Thanks for the clarification. :-)


246 posted on 12/06/2005 6:45:02 AM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
Well, this is an interesting twist. Hopefully, the professor was not seriously injured, and since he was treated and released, it sounds like he wasn't. How sad that some frevolutionists are exploiting this man's injuries to promote their own agenda against creationists. These were no more agents of creationism than an abortion clinic bomber is an agent of the pro-life movement.

I'm disappointed that we haven't seen more condemnation of these morons from the creationist camp. Instead, we've seen lots of skepticism and holier-than-thous.

If this was faked, then the man ought to go to jail. And I'll lead the charge. If it wasn't, then all creationists need to come out loudly condemning these thugs.

If the creationists don't, they're no better than the "moderate Muslims" who say they decry the violence but won't actually raise a voice to stop it.

Time will tell. But if an arrest is made, or a perp identified, then I expect the creationists to apologize and loudly condemn the morons.

247 posted on 12/06/2005 6:54:24 AM PST by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
You just can't stop gloating . . .

I take no pleasure in the physical pummeling of an ideological bubblehead. I am amused, however, at folks who are all puffed up with self-righteous indignation when their whole philosophy of life entails mere particles in motion due to unguided, unintelligent causes.

248 posted on 12/06/2005 6:55:18 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: OB1kNOb
It just goes to show ya that in this country we have free speech but you still have to pay for the consequences.

If violence is the consequence of speech, then it isn't "free." The Colonists had that "freedom" under the king.

249 posted on 12/06/2005 6:56:16 AM PST by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Emmett McCarthy

"Who wants to take bets that this turns out to be phony?"

That was the first thought I had when I read the headline.

Our town supposedly had a rash of violence against peace protestors and Muslim property shortly after 9/11. Every incidence was phoney, or no evidence was found to back up the so called incidences.


250 posted on 12/06/2005 6:57:15 AM PST by Grampa Dave (NY / LA Slimes and Wash Compost charge subscribers for their lies about Iraq and the USA!)
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