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Darwinist evolutionists wouldn't be having this problem if they hadn't made their science into a quasi-religious faith and enlisted the assistance of the ACLU and the federal government in shutting shut down debate to ensure the purity and orthodoxy of belief.

The mullahs in Iran have a similar problem keeping western-thinking Iranians under their thumb. The more they squeeze, the more they engender resistance from people who resent being told how to think.

Any scientific theory too weak to stand on its own in the face of honest criticism is an abomination and deserves no protection from the state.

"Darwinist evolutionists wouldn't be having this problem if they hadn't made their science into a quasi-religious faith and enlisted the assistance of the ACLU and the federal government in shutting shut down debate to ensure the purity and orthodoxy of belief."

Since nothing like that happened, there must be a different explanation.

"Any scientific theory too weak to stand on its own in the face of honest criticism is an abomination and deserves no protection from the state."

ID'ers/creationists are not providing honest criticism.

I don't know what your talking about. The theory of evolution has stood pretty much unchallenged for well over a hundred years. Which is very impressive considering all the advances in biology over that time. If ID had any evidence people who do research about it, then publish papers in scientific journals. But that doesn't happen.

I don't know why you seem to think the scientific community is scared to lose the theory of evolution. While there is some reluctance to change ideas, science has accepted far bigger changes in conventional wisdom. In fact science's goal is to find a better way to explain what they think we already know.

I swear creationists are just projecting their belief in book written thousands of years ago by people who barely had a grasp on arithmetic. If the theory of evolution was proven wrong tomorrow there wouldn't be backlash. The reason educated people are angry when Iders or Creationists try to push their ideas, is not because scientists are afraid to be wrong, but because we don't want unscientific dogma presented as science.

Darwinist evolutionists wouldn't be having this problem if they hadn't made their science into a quasi-religious faith and enlisted the assistance of the ACLU and the federal government in shutting shut down debate to ensure the purity and orthodoxy of belief.

Do you see debate shut down here?

High school science classes are not the place for 'debate' between science and fringe religious beliefs.

Any scientific theory too weak to stand on its own in the face of honest criticism is an abomination and deserves no protection from the state.

Absolutely. So why are creationists continually trying to force sceince teachers to teach religious ideas?

The mullahs in Iran have a similar problem keeping western-thinking Iranians under their thumb.

Ah, yes...invoke the creationist mullahs in Iran, where the theocrats tell the scientists what science is...

Excellent... < /Mr. Burns voice>

The mullahs in Iran have a similar problem keeping western-thinking Iranians under their thumb. The more they squeeze, the more they engender resistance from people who resent being told how to think.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Mullahs? Let's do some comparisons here:

The madrassases of Iran are compulsory. For most parents in the U.S. government schools are compulsory.

The madrassases of Iran will imprison and punish those who refuse to send their children to their schools. The government schools in the U.S. will punish and imprison those who refuse to cooperate with government school officials.

In the U.S. if a citizen refuses to pay his taxes to support the NON-neutral political, cultural, and religious agenda of the government schools, the citizen will have his home or business sold at sheriff's auction. I don't know what they would do in Iran.

Oh....and please don't say that parents in the U.S. can choose a private school or home school.

The government is running a price-fixed monopoly. Then when private schools are scarce the government threatens parents with police and foster care action if the government schools aren't used.

Government K-12 schools are very expensive to the taxpayer. They cost 1/3 more than our military, even in a time of war. This pushes both parents into the workforce just to pay taxes and live, thus making homeschooling impossible.

Government schools have so ill-educated a generation that many parents are too illiterate and innumerate to homeschool. Hey,,,,maybe that was the entire point of having government schools.

It seems to me that those who are the most vocal about supporting evolution and the least likely to support vouchers or tax credits so that all children ( religious or non-religious, pro or anti-evolution) can choose a school that will support and uphold family values rather than undermining them.

If government schools were abolished tomorrow, the acrimony over evolution and ID would evaporate like dew on grass on a summer's day.

Oh....and before anyone accuses me of being a Neanderthal or a mullah....I SUPPORT the theory of evolution.

Any scientific theory too weak to stand on its own in the face of honest criticism is an abomination and deserves no protection from the state.

But creationism, creation science, and their politically corrected offspring, ID, are not honest (scientific) criticism. They are all based on religion.

They deserve no promotion in science classes.