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To: ScubieNuc
No I don't equate Christians to the Taliban, I equate those who think they should force their views on the rest of us. From how you described yourself you're not someone who I'd call the American Taliban.

I do not care what anyone believes, and I think everyone has the right to think whatever they want, no matter how stupid it is. However who is trying to indoctrinate school children with your religious ideas. If your children already go to church and Sunday school why do you need the state to teach them things that are very clearly not true, just so some in our society don't have their fragile belief system broken.

Public schools are a secular institution and evolution is accepted by an overwhelming amount scientists who study biology as being the mostly likely explanation of how species come to be, with the facts we have now. I have no doubt there are parts of evolution we have wrong because all science is always changing.

And don't try to insinuate that evolution caused Communism because thats silly. I also bet more Americans in the 1930s believed in evolution than soviets did.
426 posted on 04/19/2006 6:34:55 PM PDT by RHINO369
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To: RHINO369
"And don't try to insinuate that evolution caused Communism because thats silly. "

That's not what I said. I merely pointed out that the communists embraced evolutionary origins. That's not the same as saying that evolution created communists.

The point was more on the lines of...An evil system used the logic of evolution to try to attain their goals. The belief that Creationists are as bad as terrorists, illustrates how the communists embraced jailing religious people.

Sincerely
430 posted on 04/19/2006 6:53:19 PM PDT by ScubieNuc
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To: RHINO369

I equate those who think they should force their views on the rest of us.

There seem to be a fair number of people supporting evolution who have no problem with the government schools forcing it on resistant children and their families. If it is wrong for the IDers to force their worldview on others, it is wrong for the evolutionists to use the force of government schools as well.

However who is trying to indoctrinate school children with your religious ideas. If your children already go to church and Sunday school why do you need the state to teach them things that are very clearly not true, just so some in our society don't have their fragile belief system broken.

For some children evolution will undermine their religious traditions. Parents should not be forced to send their children to government schools and then in return forced to undo the damage done to their religious beliefs. What the government is doing is establishing a worldview that actively and deliberately undermines and is hostile to the beliefs taught in the home.

If the evolutionists do not want ID forced on their children then they should respect the IDer's wish not to have evolution forced on their children. The only way to do that is to begin the process of privatizing universal K-12 education.

Public schools are a secular institution and evolution is accepted by an overwhelming amount scientists who study biology as being the mostly likely explanation of how species come to be, with the facts we have now. I have no doubt there are parts of evolution we have wrong because all science is always changing.

Secularism is a worldview that is hostile to the religious beliefs of many. If the government is establishing secularism it is actively establishing a worldview that supports the traditions of some ( with religious consequences) while actively and deliberately undermining those of others ( ie. disestablishing).

Also it does not matter how many people agree with evolution ( even though I am one of them). The voting mob has no right to force its secular worldview on others. It is call freedom of conscience.

436 posted on 04/19/2006 7:25:42 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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