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To: js1138

I don't advocate teaching religion in science class. I only ask, and I think most Americans would agree, that science admit up front that it's as clueless as a newborn puppy about God's existence or non-existence.


538 posted on 04/20/2006 9:24:59 AM PDT by puroresu (Conservatism is an observation; Liberalism is an ideology)
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To: puroresu
I only ask, and I think most Americans would agree, that science admit up front that it's as clueless as a newborn puppy about God's existence or non-existence

Your wish is granted. In fact, it was a wasted wish. Please take note:

Science can not, and does not, have the ability or the purpose of proving or disproving God. If it did, there would be far fewer Godly people involved in, much less supporting, science and evolution. But the CRIDer side can't seem to drop the strawman "Science hates God" arguement. They are ignoring evidence again, because it doesn't fit their agenda.

539 posted on 04/20/2006 9:36:11 AM PDT by LibertarianSchmoe
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To: puroresu
I don't advocate teaching religion in science class. I only ask, and I think most Americans would agree, that science admit up front that it's as clueless as a newborn puppy about God's existence or non-existence.

I absolutley agree with you here.

But where does science make any claims about God? And why is it Biology that is the focus of such sustained attention here, rather than Geology or Physics or Chemistry?

I find the conclusion inescapable -- though I am happy to hear arguments that might persuade me otherwise -- that what is at work here is a specific political agenda by a small group of religious sectarians. Let me expand a little:

Historically, our understanding of the natural world was intimately bound up with our various religions, with their creation myths and accounts of divine intervention without which natural phenomena were inexplicable. Science, which springs from our inherent curosity and has forged a powerful methodolgy from our rationality, has indeed collided with these older religious worldviews. This isn't a 'program' of science, but it is an inevitable outcome: once you understand static electricity, it's only a question of time before Zeus and Thor are going to lose their jobs as Thunder-Makers.

But it does not mecessarily follow that science is thereby in the business of 'attacking religion' or 'denying God.' It may be (and I am one who tends to think this way) that God is a far more sophisticated concept than we may have thought in previous times. Most major Christian denominations, for example, are not threatened by Darwin and the theory of evolution.

Clearly, science is at odds with some people's concept of God; such folks would be best advised to ignore science rather than to make all this special pleading for some kind of 'affirmative action' to protect their minority beliefs.

542 posted on 04/20/2006 9:47:12 AM PDT by ToryHeartland
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