I believe it would be beneficial to have some quotes taken from interviews Beth, Dave, and others did, just to refresh our memories.
I am going to attempt to post quotes from an interview each day, as time permits.
Todays quotes are from an interview on the
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And now we‘re going to move on to the case in Aruba. Now to new details out of there in the search for a missing teen, Natalee Holloway. The Aruban deputy police chief has just wrapped up a closed-door meeting with the FBI.
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Chief, thank you. First of all, how did the meeting go? And how long was the meeting with the FBI?
GEROLD DOMPIG, DEPUTY POLICY CHIEF OF ARUBA: Well, it was a great meeting. And basically, I can say, even though we butted heads a couple of times, but we basically renewed our vows to work together. And we sat for, I think, a little over five hours, but it was a great meeting.
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COSBY: What‘s the next step, Chief, in terms of who you want to interview next and where you‘re headed?
DOMPIG: Well, we‘re still looking at the same scenarios. And we‘re pretty much, you would say, encouraged by the fact that the main scenario where we still look at these three boys is also the scenario that the FBI believes that we are on the right track.
COSBY: Is there a possibility she may have run away? Can you exclude that?
DOMPIG: No, not at all, because you have to keep an open mind, of course. But don‘t forget that, if we look at the statements from especially Joran, I have received today an overview of all the several moments where he has basically lied. And that‘s a lot.
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COSBY: You also want to talk to some of the girls who were with Natalee. Where does that stand? And are you planning to maybe come to the states to do that?
DOMPIG: Well, we discussed that. We‘re looking at that right now and in what way we can process that. Don‘t forget that there‘s been about 120 teens in the Holiday hotel. So we need to make an assessment of which ones we want to talk to, which questions we haven‘t asked them yet, and try to get it done with the help of the FBI.
COSBY: Do you believe that you‘ll be coming to the states soon possibly, Chief?
DOMPIG: Well, I hope I‘m safe coming to the states, because there‘s a couple of people that are not really pleased with the work that we‘ve done. But, if the time is there, I‘ll be glad to come.
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COSBY: Where does it stand with, you know, these key folks, Deepak, Satish and Joran? Do you believe you‘re going to have to be calling them in soon again for questioning?
DOMPIG: Well, I hope so, because they‘re still our main focus. And don‘t forget that we want to make sure that—because these boys have, like, eight, nine lawyers, so we want to make sure that, when we call them in, that we‘re absolutely sure that we have enough basis to call them in.
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COSBY: Now, I know, Chief, a lot of the focus was obviously on that taped interview done for Dr. Phil‘s show by Jamie Skeeters‘ with Deepak. Do you believe—you have the tape now. Where do they stand, in terms of analysis? And do you believe—you were telling me that you thought there may be some discrepancies?
DOMPIG: Yes. But because we just want to make sure that these discrepancies are maybe in the transcriptions that were made, but we‘re going to get there soon and I think at a place where we feel comfortable, and maybe even with the legal assistance through the FBI try to get the original version that would be on the hard disk of Jamie Skeeters.
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COSBY: And also, real quick, Chief, I know that there‘s sort of a renewed search, from what we heard, at the lighthouse, also the fisherman‘s hut, two of the sort of the key areas there in Aruba. Is there anything, any new evidence to sort of suggest that they should start those searches there again?
DOMPIG: No, no, no. I regret to say no. We‘re still looking in the ocean. And don‘t forget that, by this time, we‘re not looking for a body anymore. But basically, if a body was dropped there, you‘re talking about bones.
COSBY: And you believe there may still be some bones or something there, real quick?
DOMPIG: I hope so.
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Jug, let me start with you, because the chief sounded very optimistic, sounded very focused after his meeting with the FBI. That‘s got to be optimistic for you.
GEORGE “JUG” TWITTY, STEPFATHER OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY: It is optimistic. I hope—you know, Gerold was very instrumental in the beginning of the investigation. I felt like the second day or third day down there he was on top of it. And hopefully, you know, we‘ll find something out.
COSBY: Do you get a sense, Jug, that there‘s sort of renewed energy? He also seemed, after the meeting with the FBI, that they both seem to be on the same track, seem to be working together, five-hour meeting. That‘s got to be a good sign, right?
TWITTY: I hope so. I hope that the FBI will call Beth in the morning, and tell her what the meeting was about and, hopefully, give her some hope that they are going in the right direction.
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COSBY: You know, Jamie, he was talking about some of the discrepancies with the tape, saying that it was hard to hear some of the things. I know that he‘s sending the tapes to Holland, also checking with the FBI.
You did these recordings. Is that normal for them to be some discrepancies, and it just takes sort of enhancement?
JAMIE SKEETERS, PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR: Yes, Rita. What I heard Gerold make a statement that he didn‘t trust the tapes, there was a couple of red flags.
Gerold and I, we communicate frequently. And I‘m very pleased with the way he‘s handling this. But naturally I was concerned what his red flags were. And he indicated it wasn‘t the credibility of the tapes.
It‘s just that I downloaded from my hard drive on a disc and gave it to the Dr. Phil show. They in turn downloaded that to VCRs. Now, he received VCRs and received my disc, and the disc is much more clearer than the VCRs.
And that was only the only discrepancy, plus the transcripts—when I do homicides and other cases, I do my own transcripts, because it‘s difficult for a secretary to try to interpret what I said depending on background noise.
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COSBY: OK. So you‘re not going to go with her, unfortunately?
TWITTY: No, I‘m not going with Beth. Paul is going with her.
I hope, Rita, the one thing that really infuriates me is that I hear, you know, the rumors that Paulus Van Der Sloot is trying to get back into his job in the government.
And if the government of Aruba, the people of Aruba, let this man back into a government position, I think it‘s a terrible thing. The guy‘s—he‘s a pitiful excuse of a human being. And he does not deserve to be representing the—or being in the government in Aruba.
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I believe it would be beneficial to have some quotes taken from interviews Beth, Dave, and others did, just to refresh our memories.
I am going to attempt to post quotes from an interview each day, as time permits.
Todays quotes are from an interview on the
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SUSAN CANDIOTTI, CNN CORRESPONDENT:
However, something rather curious. I`m hearing from a law enforcement source close to the investigation that the FBI, who has been there from the start at the invitation of Aruban authorities -- FBI has been asking for access to interviews, to evidence, to various materials that have been gathered along the way, has asked for it on more than one occasion.
And yet, they have been denied access to that information for review, as it`s been explained to me, give it some fresh perspective, for example.
Also, I`ve learned, according to the same source close to the investigation, that, for example, the FBI has provided a profiler along the way, as has the Dutch, and has given advice, among other things, on how to interview, for example, Joran Van Der Sloot, the 17-year-old son of the judge, and certain techniques.
That advice, I`m told, has not been accepted or utilized by the FBI. Now, how do we know this? Well, we know that the FBI has been allowed to observe interr ogations and interviews. They have been able to observe searches. Primarily, they`re not -- I`ve been told not been able to enter residences, participate in the arrests, which is probably not surprising.
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GRACE: Susan, Susan, Susan, hold on. Take a look at the monitor, if you can see it, Susan. I`m not an FBI agent, but I know this much. You don`t handcuff two co-defendants together that you`re trying to keep separate so they gel their stories perfectly.
Speaking of the way the defendants are treated, there`s a perfect example for the whole world to see.
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CANDIOTTI: CANDIOTTI: Well, certainly, you`ve had comments on that leading up to this, because you`ve seen this for quite some time now. And there are those who obviously don`t agree with that way of doing things.
But you know, we`ve talked to a spokesperson for the government. We`ve talked to, and perhaps more importantly, a spokesperson for the prosecutor`s office to try to get a response to this. And they are stressing only the cooperation, which no one disputes that there is a rapport that they`re working together.
But we couldn`t get a clear-cut answer on why it is that the FBI has not been provided access to review these materials, other than, "Well, we discuss things, and we decided not to." And also, they`ve been told that they can`t have access to it because, as I understand it, the local rules do not permit it.
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GRACE: Speaking of diving, also, Susan Candiotti, I understand there were divers near the Marriott Hotel today?
CANDIOTTI: Well, my information is that -- and perhaps your guest there from the Texas company can confirm this -- that a barrel was found floating somewhat near the Marriott. And it was brought to the attention of the authorities -- I`m told the FBI was also made aware of this -- but went nowhere.
It was described to me as being highly corroded, and had some old cement in it. I am told that on the island there is an old oil refinery. So it`s not uncommon to find these barrels floating around. In fact, it was suggested it might have even been an old buoy from the area. Bu that went nowhere.
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GRACE: Let me go to Natalee`s mother. Beth Holloway Twitty is with us tonight. As you can see, she is not giving up on the search for her daughter. She`s handing out there handing out flyers, she`s appearing on TV practically on a nightly basis, begging for help regarding her daughter.
Ms. Twitty, thank you for being with us. What do you make of inviting the FBI down to help and then giving them the cold shoulder, not sharing any files, not letting them help with questioning of any of the suspects?
BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, MOTHER OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY: You know, Nancy, it`s really difficult for me to comment on that and to speak, you know, on behalf of the FBI. You know, I know there are some areas that we`ve been concerned about.
And, you know, as far as denied certain participation in it, you know, Nancy, I`m just going to have to let them address that. I just cannot get involved in that.
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GRACE: You know what, Ms. -- Beth Holloway Twitty is with us tonight. It`s Natalee`s mother. She spoke out against the release of the Kalpoe brothers. After that, she was basically attacked by some of the Aruban people verbally, of course, demanding an apology, decrying her.
Ms. Twitty, I thought that that was entirely wrong, but I respect what you did, making that apology. I know you want to keep it smooth with the people in Aruba to continue getting their cooperation.
TWITTY: Well, Nancy, you know, my heart does go out to the Aruban citizens. And I realize -- you know, as I`m watching that barrel being extracted from the beach today, this is just an all-around just tragic and terrible ordeal that we are all going through.
And, you know, I think at that point, there was just such a huge frustration level for myself and for everyone involved, I just think that that was just probably inevitable that that was going to happen. And, you know, it`s just -- it`s been so difficult, Nancy.
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GRACE: I want to go to Tim Miller with EquuSearch. He`s there on his own dime, still looking for Natalee Holloway. Tim Miller, could you tell us where the search is headed now?
TIM MILLER, EQUUSEARCH WORKER: Well, you know what? We`ve covered a lot of stuff, Nancy. The barrel today was something that information was given out to, and Natalee`s dad asked to us check that out.
I think the authorities were notified a couple days ago. And so we went and checked it out. And we spent about three hours on that thing getting it in. It wasn`t floating, by no means. I mean, it was at the bottom. It was nearly all the way under the water.
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GRACE: Tim, are Aruban authorities helping in your search?
MILLER: You know what? We`ve not had any problems with them. They have helped us. You know, as far as the Marines coming and us working together and stuff like that, that did not happen. I think we`re getting as much support from them as we can get. I mean, nobody knows...
GRACE: But what are they doing? What are they doing to help you?
MILLER: They`ve given us areas that they wanted us to search. They`ve given us some information, and they always say, "The area I`m sending you to is part of the investigation."
GRACE: So that`s how they`ve helped you, by telling you where to go search?
MILLER: Yes, they`ve told us -- yes, they`ve told us where to search.
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GRACE: Very quickly back to Beth Holloway Twitty, Natalee`s mother, when you first saw Joran Van Der Sloot`s father, the so-called judge there in Aruba, what happened?
TWITTY: You know, the first night that I was -- I wouldn`t called it had a meeting with him, but that was in his presence, was on May 31st around 3:00 a.m. And we didn`t have a conversation at that time. He only approached the vehicle that I was seated in.
The first time we had a conversation, of course, was when I went to his home and spent 90 minutes there. And, you know, Nancy, the one thing that I would wish for is that he would step up, and step up, and we`ve had this -- we had a great investigative tool here, this voice analysis system.
It would have just been a huge burden relieved of him if he would have stepped forward, had this voice analysis done. And you know, we wouldn`t still be where we are, we feel, if he would have done that. And that always saddens me that he couldn`t do that. < /DIV>
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GRACE: Well, Beth, have any of these people agreed to take a polygraph to clear themselves?
TWITTY: Absolutely not, to my knowledge, Nancy. And that would really, I think, help. I know it`s not admissible in court, but you know, it would certainly be an excellent investigative tool. And I cannot see why we did not utilize it.
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BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, MOTHER OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY: I would like to apologize to the Aruban people and the Aruban authorities if I or my family offended you in any way. It was never my intention to do so. And as the Aruban people, they have been extremely kind and generous and especially supportive of myself and my family during this tragedy.
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GRACE: That is Natalee Holloway`s mother. She has been in Aruba since her daughter went missing, fighting every day to bring her girl home, to find her. When she criticized part of the investigation, she was attacked verbally there in Aruba.
She`s there everyday looking house-to-house, literally looking for her daughter, and then had to give that apology to Aruban citizens.
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GRACE: Aruban tourism. .
CANDIOTTI: The effect on it?
GRACE: Yes.
CANDIOTTI: Well, according to them down there, they seem to -- I think by showing, by putting their best foot forward, to show that they`re trying to find Natalee, there is the hope that there will not have -- there will not be a detrimental effect on tourism.
I certainly -- we still hear about people going down there. We`re not hearing of anyone canceling their plans for their trips. I`m sure that may be happening. But overall, I think they feel as though, because they are trying to show the world that they`re trying to do the best they can to find her, that there won`t be any ill effect.
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GRACE: GRACE: Alan Ripka, let`s get real, all right? You`re on the other side of the fence from me. There`s no two ways about it, you and Lisa Wayne. You`re defense lawyers; I`m a former prosecutor
But let`s just look at the way this investigation has gone, all right? There was an alleged confession, and they said no, that didn`t happen. Then they said that they had found blood in -- blood, possibly Natalee`s. No, it turned out to be a dog`s blood.
Today, we learned they found bones. Guess what? It was a donkey`s bones. They didn`t seize the car Natalee had been in. They lost precious time. They are not getting records from cell phones, doing wire taps, nothing. It`s been one bungle after the next, Alan.
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GRACE: Is it true, Susan Candiotti, reports came to the states that Van Der Sloot`s father said, "No body, no case"?
CANDIOTTI: Yes, I mean, that`s what we`re hearing from our sources and have heard that for quite some time now repeatedly. Remember, they had that time period where they hadn`t been picked up.
So there would have been an opportunity for the father to get together with his son, naturally, and the Kalpoe brothers to have a discussion.
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GRACE: There he is, Susan.
CANDIOTTI: And that`s what we have heard was said.
GRACE: That`s really a better shot of his rear end, as I always say, because he runs whenever anybody asks him a question.
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GRACE: Beth Holloway Twitty, I think Susan`s right. What do you know of the judge telling his son, "No body, no case"?
TWITTY: You know, I think that I had heard that -- I think that came off maybe a Dutch television program. I`m not certain of that, Nancy.
But, of course, that is a huge concern of mine, because I go back to the beginning of the investigation. And, you know, I think of what the -- all four of the individuals are involved in, when you`re involved in obstruction of justice, and lying to authorities, and implicating innocent people. I mean, I certainly wish those were enforceable laws to some degree, because I feel that all four of those were occurring early on.
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