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Dinosaur Shocker (YEC say dinosaur soft tissue couldn’t possibly survive millions of years)
Smithsonian Magazine ^ | May 1, 2006 | Helen Fields

Posted on 05/01/2006 8:29:14 AM PDT by SirLinksalot

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To: Mamzelle
I regard this repeated spamming as a kind of rhetorical bullying tactic.

The survey is a bullying tactic??? Oh my.

I encourage anyone who agrees to scroll by as soon as they recognize it. Maybe you have the right to spam (?) here, but no one is required to read it or take it seriously.

If you want to sit there with your hands over your ears chanting "LALALALALALALALA" then that is totally your right. It just reflects badly on ... me???

761 posted on 05/02/2006 2:30:36 PM PDT by jennyp (WHAT I'M READING NOW: "The Great Influenza" by Barry)
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To: BillT; Coyoteman
You evolutionists date the rocks by the fossils found in them and date the fossils by what rocks they are found in.

That is a falsehood. Look up the facts of radiometric dating, stratiography, tree-ring timelines, etc...

And do not repeat that false assertion again: Your first use of it can be excused as an innocent error of ignorance. No subsequent reiteration of it will be.

762 posted on 05/02/2006 2:31:22 PM PDT by King Prout (many complain I am overly literal... this would not be a problem if fewer people were under-precise)
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To: GourmetDan

You can join the "priesthood" if you like. All it requires is curiosity and study.

I'm not critical of those who want to learn, I'm just critical of those who are unlearned yet presume they are capable to debate topics they don't even understand.


763 posted on 05/02/2006 2:36:31 PM PDT by ahayes (Yes, I have a devious plot. No, you may not know what it is.)
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To: Elsie
50% of all Evolutionists graduated in the lower half of their class.

Actually you're assuming that those who think evolution is correct are evenly distributed throughout the GPA continuum. This may not in fact be correct.

764 posted on 05/02/2006 2:38:12 PM PDT by ahayes (Yes, I have a devious plot. No, you may not know what it is.)
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To: Ichneumon; Alamo-Girl; Right Wing Professor

Seems like once you allow one uncaused cause, you've got the lid off the box. I don't think the folks who decreed you can't have uncaused causes ever studied quantum theory.


765 posted on 05/02/2006 2:39:59 PM PDT by js1138 (somewhere, some time ago, something happened, but whatever it was, wasn't evolution)
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To: betty boop

Given:
"might" is defined as ability to impose positive and negative consequences, immunity to reprisals, lack of needs requiring exogenous sources of fulfillment, and endurance.

Postulate:
"right" is always defined by might, and that definition's range and power is always proportionate to the might of the one making the definition.

Challenge:
Provide one case where the above is clearly not operant.

Good luck, see you in a few years.


766 posted on 05/02/2006 2:49:46 PM PDT by King Prout (many complain I am overly literal... this would not be a problem if fewer people were under-precise)
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To: Liberal Classic
Some years ago while I was developing some computerized document analysis methods, I discovered who actually wrote Shakespeare. A group of tenured English Literature Professors visited me and explained how releasing such information would lead to the End Of Western Civilization. (They also showed me the Secret Handshake.)
767 posted on 05/02/2006 2:51:35 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: edsheppa

Sounds like some people know no more science than the average lawyer or pony-tailed journalist.


768 posted on 05/02/2006 2:54:21 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: betty boop
[ In short in the italicized remarks at the top and Pinker's comment, we are here dealing with a fallacy that Whitehead called "the fallacy of misplaced concreteness." I gather it arises because modern science assumes and then asserts that everything there is in the universe is amenable to scientific description and explanation. So in effect, with this expectation, they must shrink the universe to fit their method. ]

Good post in total.. How can a human get his head around infinity.?. If the the universe ends, how can it end?.. And if its infinite, how can that be?.. Infinity is a problem.. a serious problem.. Approaching infinity flippantly is how some approach the concept of God.. They can't get their minds around it.. On the other hand those that can conceive of God as a reality seem to have little problem with the infinity problem..

That is, there are some are frogs in a well that know they are merely a frog in a well, and others are frogs in a well that think the/that well is a model of the universe.. One frog questions formulae spawned in well, yet others see those formulae as axiomatic.. This thread appears to be a conversation between two different kind of frogs.. The Frogulation of Cosmic infinity..

Cosmofrogulators.. Is that a science?.. Just asking..d;^)
I have a problem with concieving of the totality of God.. so I stopped..
The scary part is God would have no problem concieveing of the totality of US.. all of us.. Humans seem to have a problem with proper humility and gratitude.. and arrogance..

769 posted on 05/02/2006 2:56:31 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: King Prout

You could put in a bath of water-glass an set it in an over overnight. That works with pears.


770 posted on 05/02/2006 2:58:15 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: jennyp

You seem to have captured a native example of "advocacy of willful ignorance" in the wild.


771 posted on 05/02/2006 3:00:19 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Doctor Stochastic

Nothing surprising. Those suckers are downright common.


772 posted on 05/02/2006 3:00:53 PM PDT by ahayes (Yes, I have a devious plot. No, you may not know what it is.)
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To: ahayes

And these threads draw them in.....


773 posted on 05/02/2006 3:02:31 PM PDT by 2nsdammit (By definition it's hard to get suicide bombers with experience.)
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To: Doctor Stochastic

That's an "oven" not an "over." (Baking, not cricket.)


774 posted on 05/02/2006 3:04:14 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Ichneumon
Ichneumon, I'm beginning to believe that General Honore had folks like that in mind when he developed his famous remark...

Wonder if he originally r prefaced it with "willfully"...

775 posted on 05/02/2006 3:12:26 PM PDT by TXnMA (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Repeat San Jacinto!)
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To: scottdeus12
I love these threads, you get to see how God-fearing Christians like myself are just simply too stupid to grasp the concept that science holds all the answers to the universe.....silly me...

Who says science holds all the answers to the universe?

Besides you, of course.

776 posted on 05/02/2006 3:12:46 PM PDT by stands2reason ("Patriotism is the highest form of dissent." - Mark Steyn)
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To: shuckmaster; mlc9852
It was big news indeed last year when Schweitzer announced she had discovered blood vessels and structures that looked like whole cells inside that T. rex bone—the first observation of its kind. The finding amazed colleagues, who had never imagined that even a trace of still-soft dinosaur tissue could survive.

The article clearly says *still soft tissue*.

So you believe the mineralized fossil was actually "soft"? LOL!!! I doesn't take to much of a deliberate misrepresentation of the facts to mislead you does it?

So the scientists are lying to us then? So then why should people be criticized for not believing scientists then?

777 posted on 05/02/2006 3:15:04 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: BrandtMichaels

I have always enjoyed learning and will continue to do so..

Great. Then check out this website..

www.talkorigins.org

779 posted on 05/02/2006 3:23:28 PM PDT by ml1954 (NOT the disruptive troll seen frequently on CREVO threads.)
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To: Alamo-Girl; marron; PatrickHenry; Doctor Stochastic; Right Wing Professor; King Prout; hosepipe; ...
I just can't resist commenting on geometry.

And I'm so glad that you do, Alamo-Girl! As you say, there is something eerie about "the unreasonable effectiveness of mathematics" as a sort of "mirror image" of physics. We can "see" through mathematics, especially geometry, the things that we cannot see with our eyes. String theory would be "out of business" absent this understanding. And string theory is quite respectable in the scientific community these days.

Notwithstanding that string theory is thoroughly Platonic in spirit. :^) As are most string theorists, if Lisa Randall's observation is correct.

Thank you so much for writing, dear sister!

780 posted on 05/02/2006 3:25:47 PM PDT by betty boop (The world of Appearance is Reality’s cloak -- "Nature loves to hide.")
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