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To: betty boop

you brought up "justice" and consequences to men in the afterlife for deeds don in life.

even the god of the JudeoChristian tradition derives authority from the unchallengable (supposed) power to inflict infinite consequences, both good and bad.

again, no matter what paradigm one posits -be it real, imaginary, or superstitious- might always is the power which defines "right"

so try again.


1,260 posted on 05/04/2006 12:16:00 PM PDT by King Prout (many complain I am overly literal... this would not be a problem if fewer people were under-precise)
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To: King Prout
even the god of the JudeoChristian tradition derives authority from the unchallengable (supposed) power to inflict infinite consequences, both good and bad.

The authority of God is sui generis, and quite beyond human understanding. God is "beyond" spacetime reality and all categories of human thought. He is not subject to the order of creation which He created. There are some who say (as you do) that God is "vengeful," "inflicting infinite consequences" on human miscreants. To me that is a caricature; for God is Love, Truth, the Good, Justice -- at least these are the descriptors that a faithful Christian who responds to His call of love and grace attaches to Him. Perhaps your understanding of the JudeoChristian tradition is a tad superficial, King? Have you ever really bothered to "study" it? Or ever allowed yourself to be drawn by God's love for you?

In short, I think some of your assumptions may not be too well founded. Which maybe is why we're having such a difficult time understanding each other. For one thing, I don't know what in the world you want me to "try again." Please be more specific, King!

Thanks for writing!

1,274 posted on 05/04/2006 1:53:09 PM PDT by betty boop (Death... is the separation from one another of two things, soul and body; nothing else.)
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To: King Prout; betty boop
again, no matter what paradigm one posits -be it real, imaginary, or superstitious- might always is the power which defines "right"

Shame must always originate from might? Explain...

1,283 posted on 05/04/2006 3:41:37 PM PDT by Heartlander
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To: King Prout; betty boop
"again, no matter what paradigm one posits -be it real, imaginary, or superstitious- might always is the power which defines 'right'"

Congratulations. You've managed to conflate right and wrong (good & evil) with might (coercion/force) to such an extent that you've turned their meaning on their heads. While it is surely true that right must often call on might in its defense if evil is to be defeated, it is preposterous to suggest, for instance, that we had to wait until May of 1945 to finally know that good was defined in the defeat of the Nazis.

And who, among those who witnessed the event, will e'er forget the sight of a lone unarmed man facing down the might of four T-72 tanks? Does the knowledge that Tiananmen Square ultimately brought about the shedding of the blood of several thousand patriots, somehow bring to us the belief that that blood shed for liberty must now be understood as an evil, and that the thugs who wielded the weapons which cut down those patriots must now be understood as representatives of the good?

In confusing might with good and evil, whatever your intentions, you obliterate the distinction between self-defense and naked aggression, and thereby take the right to life out of the hands of the innocent.

1,324 posted on 05/04/2006 8:08:16 PM PDT by YHAOS
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