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To: betty boop; Chiapet; Alamo-Girl
[ Where would we begin? ]

Marvelous discourse between you and Chiapet..
Mathematics indeed could be the footprints of God..
or the scent... or the playthings.. made me think too/also..
I like that..

As a molders can cast bronze or plastic being humans..
Boggles the mind on how God might cast universal energy/matter at will.. Interesting that Quantum Mechanics can't even really figure out what energy even is, completely..
God creating Galaxies, planets, lifeforms, even spirits.. maybe even time is thingly, is conceivable.. The study of crystalline structures imply art at a mechanical base.. Crystals have an identity, who gave them that identity?.. Logarithms, Pi, so many other mathematical axioms seem to mirror crystals as mechanical base art forms with an identity.. To think they are random mutations masking as art is a stretch..

1,314 posted on 05/04/2006 7:07:19 PM PDT by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
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To: hosepipe
Logarithms, Pi, so many other mathematical axioms seem to mirror crystals as mechanical base art forms with an identity.. To think they are random mutations masking as art is a stretch..

I suppose that the issue you have identified here is the heart of what I was trying to say. I believe that matter, and thus everything, acts according to law. I think that law is the nature of God. I also think, no, I know, that physical, universal law (i.e., according to my suppositions, God) dictates the interactions of matter, making none of it truly random. I also don't think that anyone, scientists in particular, disagree with this notion; that is, that nothing is truly random. Where I am departing, and perhaps where you are departing also, from science, is to identify the organizing principle.

More specifically, "random" is in the eye of the beholder. The more discerning the eye, the less random the action.

1,319 posted on 05/04/2006 7:29:04 PM PDT by Chiapet (I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me)
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