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To: BrandtMichaels
I don't know much about what John MacArther said but: 1.) How did the rule of law evolve w/o the Bible?

I am not sure if you believe the rule of law could not exist without the bible or not so I will answer as best as I can. You know the Romans were exceptionally big on law (and lawyers unfortunately), as were the ancient Chinese. Some of the earliest writing were laws. To even be considered a civilization you had to set down some form of laws, right? Yet the Bible had nothing to do with any of them. Zippo... nil. No influence whatsoever. So... the rule of law certainly existed before the bible became a large influence in the world, right?

2.) How did the 7-day week evolve w/o the Bible?

Um... well gee I don't know... what does this have to do with anything? Ok the bible made the 7 day work week... what does it mean on the grand scale of things and how does this apply to an evolution vs. creationist thread?

You can drive a truck through most of the holes in the evolution theory. The more evolutionists have 'learned' the more time and complexity the theory needs to be even remotely plausible.

Let me restate your hyperbole. There are unanswered questions that Evolutionists have not been able to completely answer. These are not the theory itself but some of the more intricate details. Does this throw the whole theory out? Nope... what ID'ers like to conveniently forget is that science is about the study of the unknown. That is why we study it, not make up fairy tales about it. The same can be said for so many other branches of the physical and social sciences. Economics theory has a lot of unanswered questions but does that mean I throw Adam Smith and capitalism out the window? Oh Marxists and Communists would love for me to do that... but I don't think so.

Now... since you talk about driving a truck through loop holes... what proof is there of ID since you are so well read in the matter? Do you propose the Earth is young like a number of your cohorts? How would you answer for what Radiometric dating? All lies I suppose? Or do you propose like some more intelligent ID'ers that microevolution is real but macroevolution is not? If so, go to my post at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1623421/posts?page=312#312. That is one small piece of evidence that is based not on just fossils but DNA evidence.

I will repeat myself for you why I call ID a cult. Instead of going the normal route that scientific theory travels, from scientific papers and peer review and finally some form of acceptance, ID'er attempt to push their brand of science another way, through the public school system. Gee, how many scientific theories travel that "route"? None. Also how many scientific theories that exists state that it happens because "some invisible intelligence" did it.

Oh... that's science alright. Hmmm why does a bird fly... to heck with studying aerodynamics... teach that an invisible intelligence is holding it up. Why does an apple fall to the ground? Hmmm... must be an intelligent being pushing (or pulling... the debate continues) us down.

You see my point? To use an invisible intelligence as the answer for all phenomena would be a really... really... really bad idea.

So ID'ers are either: a)stupid, b)just plain evil, or c)a cult whose members just can't think for themselves. That is why I call ID a cult, because the other alternatives are much worse.

181 posted on 05/01/2006 11:15:24 AM PDT by trashcanbred (Anti-social and anti-socialist)
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To: trashcanbred
Why does an apple fall to the ground? Hmmm... must be an intelligent being pushing (or pulling... the debate continues) us down.

Nope, God dropped it, Hmmmm, no he can't do that, god doesn't have accidents. However I don't care, nothing else would explain it.

260 posted on 05/01/2006 12:43:59 PM PDT by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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