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To: andysandmikesmom
On the topic of academic fraud, the man pictured in this thread is named Hwang Woo-Suk, and was a notable researcher at Seoul National University before admitting to fabricating research and falsifying records in his stem cell research. The link is to Wikipedia, which has a relatively good article on him. He name also turns up a good many search engine hits. From reading this article, and other, it would seem there were indications of problems with his methods going back as far as 1999-2000.

Professional ethics are a huge part of science and engineering. It's somewhat sad to hear people say they believe fraud is the norm, rather than the exception, and downright disturbing to hear people make claims that evidence is "suppressed" by some sort of conspiracy. It is pertinent to say people go to great lengths to prevent this sort of dishonesty, and that it is the scientific community itself who discovers these frauds.

971 posted on 05/02/2006 8:32:44 PM PDT by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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To: Liberal Classic

It's far, far easier to claim that a conspiracy exists than to actually provide evidence for said conspiracy. Conspiracy theories are a dime a dozen.


973 posted on 05/02/2006 8:35:03 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life....")
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To: Liberal Classic

Thanks for the link...I had an idea of who this guy was, and what he did, I will save the link...thanks...


976 posted on 05/02/2006 8:37:27 PM PDT by andysandmikesmom
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To: Liberal Classic
...It's somewhat sad to hear people say they believe fraud is the norm, rather than the exception, and downright disturbing to hear people make claims that evidence is "suppressed" by some sort of conspiracy....

Remember, a lot of these people come from nonscientific backgrounds where fraud is much more common.

1,087 posted on 05/03/2006 9:02:59 AM PDT by Virginia-American
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To: Liberal Classic; andysandmikesmom; CarolinaGuitarman; PatrickHenry
Oh No! Don't say someone has found out that we are conspiring to suppress all the evidence against evolution. Whadda we gonna do? I say rub out the schmuck before he tells anyone.

Wait a minute, if he says it is unfalsifiable, not only is there no evidence against it, but there can be no evidence against it by definition. The guy's just some poor drunk; move along folks. Nothing to see here.

1,104 posted on 05/03/2006 10:01:17 AM PDT by Thatcherite (Miraculous explanations are just spasmodic omphalism)
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