Lies our drug warriors told us

Reno News and Review ^ | August 24th, 2006 | Dennis Myers

[William Terrell]

Your first post to me.

[Mojave]

You're a pompous ass, who actually thinks somebody cares...

zzzzzzz

[Zon]

Here's a proposal. Take your accusation to the mods. If your accusation is true, my account is banned. If your accusation is false, you terminate your account.

The mods wouldn't necessarily know if you have two accounts. You could easily be using two different computers and two different service providers. When you admit that you have two screen names, "Roscoe" and "Mojave", you terminate your account. Is it a deal? 

[Mojave]

You folded. No surprise there.

[Zon]

I didn't fold. You made an offer for a deal and I made a modified offer back to you. Here is the deal I'm offering: When you admit that you have two screen names, "Roscoe" and "Mojave", you terminate your account and never post to FreeRepublic again. Is it a deal?

[webstersII]

"I think people are for the most part well intentioned when they try to scare kids away from drugs through exaggerations and even 'little white lies.'"

Interesting post from the front lines.

This method of white lies is the way (IMHO) that most people have been parented for a long time. A glance at some of the children's literature from the 18th and 19th century will show that it is rife with all sorts of stuff meant to scare kids away from bad stuff in life. It's well-intentioned, no doubt, but some of it (like the children's story about the boy who ate too much sugar and turned into syrup) looks more than just a bit ridiculous today.

The dissemination of knowledge really started with public schools, where the kids would find out about all sorts of things from their schoolmates. That's really when kids started checking up on what their parents were telling them. Of course, I'm sure no one on FR ever did this in school. ;-)

[dcwusmc]

(Banning DDT wasn't about birds. It was about power.)


Your very own tagline tells you all there is to know about the war on some drugs.

[A CA Guy]

Addiction to recreational drugs is a chemical and psychological issue both since extended use of drugs can change your brain chemistry.

Best thing to do is to never get started and to be smart enough to stay away from recreational users anyway.

The word I most associate with recreational users is "DEPENDENTS".

[philman_36]

But once again I will defend my family from the stuff.
You had him arrested...I came home one day and caught my oldest son and some friends in my back yard hitting a bong, they all went to jail that day.
(arrested for simply smoking pot? purportedly informed posters have proclaimed profusely that such things never happen and here you are blowing their argument out of the water...many thanks)
...which put him in the jail system which is notoriously known to be injurious to young offenders (think prison bitch) and you claim you were defending your son? I thought defending someone usually means protecting them from harm. (my bad...you did put...from the stuff...as a qualifier)
Well, congrats to him for coming out decent even after having an a$$hole for a father.

That's JMO so you can get pi$$ed if you want! I don't really care. I'd renounce you if you were my father! To me your actions were reprehensible. Families usually find other ways to resolve such issues than turning their own members in to the police.
However, a peace pipe if you will, with indoctrination like the DARE program I can understand the "stool pigeon" mentality and the associated role you must've readily accepted.

[A CA Guy]

"GOD MADE HERB!"

GOD MADE A CLIFFS AS WELL, BUT THE SMART ONES DON'T TRY TO JUMP OFF OF THEM ON A REGULAR BASIS.

[philman_36]

I don't give a damn if people want to do drugs, just keep the crap away from my kids.
Your 19 year old son isn't, and wasn't "a kid". He was an adult! You simply rode roughshod on him!
And keeping your kids away from "the crap" isn't society's responsibility...IT'S YOURS! Handle it!
Is that such a hard concept for you to comprehend?
You seem to have trouble grasping some concepts yourself.
My philosophy on this is do what ever you want, as long as your actions don't affect my family.
And when a member of your own family's actions effect your family...arrest them.
You're a piece of work! Here's to your retirement. You'll fit right in as a teacher. You're already inculcated so the replication process should be much simpler.

[Zon]

...which put him in the jail system which is notoriously known to be injurious to young offenders (think prison bitch) and you claim you were defending your son?

Having sent his own son to prison the young children in the neighborhood when asking their responsible parents about Sean327 the parents' response was probably something like: "stay away from Mr.Sean327. He's one of the bad people."

[Boiler Plate]

Well I went to the website and I had a little trouble finding anything giving drug addiction statistics for the years you cite. Can you tell me specifically what URL you got those numbers from?

[Zon]

So we embellish, and we lose the trust of the kids when we tell them what long term heroin, ecstacy use can do to them because they know already that we lie.

I assume you are not one of the "we" that tells those lies. A kindly word of wisdom/advice. When you use the word "we" -- it dilutes the differentiation you're trying to make clear in your argument.  The key is to identify those that lie and those that don't so as to drive a wedge to separate them and their agendas.

[PaxMacian]

As a human being I am dependant on water for survival.
Does that make me an addict?
Chocolate changes the chemistry in the brain,
as does sex, exercise... The chemistry of herb
works by being akin to chemistry our own body makes.
What marvelous beauty of design to place a mirror of our
mind's chemistry in the flower of a plant which contains
within its seed the most complete and absorbable
combination of amino acids on the face of Earth.
Because they do not know God they do not see his presence.
I will not bow to any godless psych. in their heretical attempts
to demonize any substance nor shall I deny the existence
of free will as they have with the concoction of addiction.
I will fight the newspeak of this godless heretical oligarchy and all blind enough not to see through it with the word of God until there is peace.

[PaxMacian]

I hear that people jump off cliffs everyday in Hawaii.
That has to be dangerous, maybe we ought to make it illegal.
Get a grip and read the next line, he also saw that it was good.
You just don't have the eyes to see nor the ears to hear.

[A CA Guy]

Water and conventional food are not like the dangerous recreational drugs. Most living in the real world don't have to think that hard to figure that out.

Where they cliff dive there is a safe place to land with water or a few might try to parachute off to safety, but there is no such safety net with recreational drugs and talking about it like a sacrament only gets kids addicted which I think is fairly Satanic.

[AmericaUnite]

I don't know if you are a man or woman, but would you think it OK for the mother of your child to smoke marijuana while pregnant? Your answer either way will say a lot to those of us not addled by marijuana in our systems.

[mugs99]

Can you tell me specifically what URL you got those numbers from?

Can you tell me specifically which post of mine you're referring to?
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[pageonetoo]

Your answer either way will say a lot to those of us not addled by marijuana in our systems.

I am addled? Look at your post, and get back to me!