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Thompson Played Grant _ No Hero in South
AP via SFGate ^ | 11/13/7 | Jim Davenport

Posted on 11/13/2007 1:06:08 PM PST by SmithL

Charleston, S.C. (AP) -- Fred Thompson has gotten a lot of mileage out of his movie and TV fame as he runs for the Republican presidential nomination. And on Tuesday, speaking at The Citadel military college, he made sure to mention one of his recent roles: president of the United States, in the movie "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee."

But that wasn't all good for someone campaigning in the South.

"Some people say I've got a little making up to do," he said. "The last role I played when I was in the movies — I played Ulysses S. Grant." That's the Northern Civil War general who went on to become president. But it could have been worse.

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1 posted on 11/13/2007 1:06:08 PM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL

Why should he feel the need to apologize for portraying a man, a former general and president, who served his country to the best of his ability?


2 posted on 11/13/2007 1:08:04 PM PST by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: SmithL

Give me a freaking break! He played Grant. Big Deal. They think The South is still full of Dixie singing KKK types and THIS is gonna get people upset..............................


3 posted on 11/13/2007 1:08:47 PM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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Dixie Ping


4 posted on 11/13/2007 1:10:21 PM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: SmithL

Big frikkin deal.


5 posted on 11/13/2007 1:11:46 PM PST by JamesP81
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To: Froufrou

Must be a slow news day or something.


6 posted on 11/13/2007 1:12:08 PM PST by JamesP81
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To: SmithL

Man, they are REALLY reaching.

I mean, it’s not like played Bill Sherman. THAT might be a problem... :)

}:-)4


7 posted on 11/13/2007 1:12:53 PM PST by Moose4 (When all else fails, read the instructions.)
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To: JamesP81

Yeah....


8 posted on 11/13/2007 1:17:11 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: SmithL
I could see if he played Nathan Bedford Forrest. Then he would be the founder of the KKK, not a hero in the North.

IDIOTS!

And I don't need to hear about founding the KKK, doesn't matter if its true, it is thought to be true. All That Matters.

9 posted on 11/13/2007 1:17:56 PM PST by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: SmithL

Whoop-tee-doo.


10 posted on 11/13/2007 1:18:51 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (Ron Paul put the cuckoo in my Cocoa Puffs)
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To: SmithL

It was just a role in a movie for Pete’s sake. He acts for a living. Give him a break! It’s no big deal. OTOH, had he played Sherman he should be taken out and shot at dawn. (Just joking)


11 posted on 11/13/2007 1:20:58 PM PST by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: Red Badger

There are plenty here on FR who haven’t gotten over the Civil War.


12 posted on 11/13/2007 1:22:53 PM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Moonman62

It’s not us! It’s them Damn Yankees!............


13 posted on 11/13/2007 1:24:43 PM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Moose4
I mean, it’s not like played Bill Sherman. THAT might be a problem... :)

Dern tootin'! :)

14 posted on 11/13/2007 1:25:02 PM PST by Constitution Day (I didn't get a "Harrumph!" out of that guy)
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To: SmithL

Algore played ManBearPig on South Park and nobody holds that against him ...


15 posted on 11/13/2007 1:25:46 PM PST by tx_eggman ("Believing without loving turns the best of creeds into a weapon of oppression" Eugene Peterson)
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To: SmithL

Grant...Sherman... just the kind of Generals who know how to win a war.


16 posted on 11/13/2007 1:26:42 PM PST by rhombus
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To: JamesP81

Assignment editor scratching for a second day PM lead.


17 posted on 11/13/2007 1:28:00 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Why should he feel the need to apologize for portraying a man, a former general and president, who served his country to the best of his ability?

He's not.

He's apologizing for playing a Yankee.

18 posted on 11/13/2007 1:28:10 PM PST by SittinYonder (Ic ■Št gehate, ■Št ic heonon nelle fleon fotes trym, ac wille fur­or gan)
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To: SmithL

If this is what they can dig up ...then...
enough said.


19 posted on 11/13/2007 1:29:30 PM PST by donnab (saving liberals brains....one moron at a time.)
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To: Red Badger

Yeah someone who could really hold his liquor and smoked cigars. Sounds like a winner in the South to me....


20 posted on 11/13/2007 1:29:41 PM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
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To: SmithL

Thompson played a role as U.S. Grant. He also played a role as a lawyer on and off TV. Consider the source for this earth shattering news. Big yawn.


21 posted on 11/13/2007 1:30:53 PM PST by afnamvet
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To: SittinYonder
He's apologizing for playing a Yankee.

Robert Duval was born in San Diego and played Robert Lee. I suppose if he runs for office he'll have to apologize for playing a rebel.

22 posted on 11/13/2007 1:32:12 PM PST by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Moose4
I mean, it’s not like played Bill Sherman. THAT might be a problem... :)

In South Carolina, yes. Now if he campaigned down at LSU...

23 posted on 11/13/2007 1:32:30 PM PST by PAR35
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To: SmithL

And Martin Sheen played Lee in “Ghettysburg”.

Tell the hillbillies to STFU ;)


24 posted on 11/13/2007 1:32:45 PM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: SmithL

Yeah, but Grant the Southerners respected because he was the only Northern general to consistently beat Robert E. Lee. In addition, Grant supported amnesty for Confederate leaders, tried to protect the civil rights of blacks in the South, among other things.

From Wikipedia, on his Reconstruction conduct:

“Grant presided over the last half of Reconstruction, watching as the Democrats (called Redeemers) took the control of every state away from his Republican coalition. When urgent telegrams from state leaders begged for help, Grant and his attorney general replied that “the whole public is tired of these annual autumnal outbreaks in the South,” saying that state militias should handle the problems, not the Army. He supported amnesty for Confederate leaders and protection for the civil rights of African-Americans. He favored a limited number of troops to be stationed in the South—sufficient numbers to protect rights of Southern blacks, suppress the violent tactics of the Ku Klux Klan, and prop up Republican governors, but not so many as to create resentment in the general population. In 1869 and 1871, Grant signed bills promoting voting rights and prosecuting Klan leaders. The Fifteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, establishing voting rights, was ratified in 1870. Recent historians have emphasized Grant’s commitment to protecting Unionists and freedmen in the South until 1876. Grant’s commitment to black civil rights was demonstrated by his address to Congress in 1875 and by his attempt to use the annexation of Santo Domingo as leverage to force white supremacists to accept blacks as part of the Southern political polity.”

All in all, not someone that the South is likely to hate these days.

*Sherman* is the general everyone in the South hates because he burned down/destroyed/torched everything he and his forces came across.


25 posted on 11/13/2007 1:33:05 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Why should he feel the need to apologize for portraying a man, a former general and president, who served his country to the best of his ability?

I think Thompson might just be having a little fun with his acting career.

The fact of the matter is, there were a good many Confederate soldiers that came to admire and respect Grant during and after the war. Then there were prominant confederates, like George Pickett, who counted Grant as a friend and James Peter Longstreet who considered Grant as one of his closest personal friend's before and after the war.

26 posted on 11/13/2007 1:35:10 PM PST by stevem
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To: Red Badger

“They think The South is still full of Dixie singing KKK types and THIS is gonna get people upset..............................”

They do, especially Hollywood. The folks in Washington think you need cootie injections to go to a NASCAR race down South.


27 posted on 11/13/2007 1:35:44 PM PST by dljordan
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To: Spktyr
*Sherman* is the general everyone in the South hates because he burned down/destroyed/torched everything he and his forces came across.

He did the equivalent of bombing German factories in WWII. He destroyed the enemies capacity to support the war effort. Once that was done, it quickened the end of the war and probably saved lives in the long run.

28 posted on 11/13/2007 1:36:38 PM PST by rhombus
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To: SmithL

Oh, the HUMANITY!!!


29 posted on 11/13/2007 1:37:22 PM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Call me a pro-life zealot with a 1-track mind.)
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To: rhombus

Oh, I didn’t say that Sherman wasn’t doing his job or that it wasn’t a military necessity to do what he did.

I’m just commenting that hating Sherman for burning down one’s ancestral home *is* still a pastime in the South.


30 posted on 11/13/2007 1:38:19 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr
*Sherman* is the general everyone in the South hates because he burned down/destroyed/torched everything he and his forces came across.

War is hell.

31 posted on 11/13/2007 1:39:19 PM PST by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Spktyr
I’m just commenting that hating Sherman for burning down one’s ancestral home *is* still a pastime in the South.

You've got that right and we wonder way writers and newspaper editors fall for stories like this... perhaps they've read some FR threads to reinforce their stereotypes.

32 posted on 11/13/2007 1:40:00 PM PST by rhombus
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To: SmithL

Nobody in the South cares who Fred Thompson portrayed. They care more about some weirdo in San Fransissy using the name of the Citadel in one of their newspapers. Blasphemy.


33 posted on 11/13/2007 1:41:52 PM PST by groanup (A good way to debate is to answer your opponent's questions, not hide under a rock.)
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To: Moose4
I mean, it’s not like played Bill Sherman. THAT might be a problem... :)

LOL.... Yea, especially in Georgia, Atlanta in particular. Although since they saw fit to inflict that crazy McKinney woman on us for so long, it might be due for another trip to the woodshed... ;)

34 posted on 11/13/2007 1:43:38 PM PST by AFreeBird (Will NOT vote for Rudy. <--- notice the period)
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To: SmithL

Let’s see, Thompson played a Union General in a movie whereas Hillary plays a power-hungry sociopathic bitch in real life. Choices choices.


35 posted on 11/13/2007 1:44:30 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: SmithL

Meanwhile Martin Sheen played Lee and couldn’t get elected dog catcher in the South....


36 posted on 11/13/2007 1:45:45 PM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
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To: groanup

Actually, it was written in Charleston


37 posted on 11/13/2007 1:46:53 PM PST by SmithL (I don't do Barf Alerts, you're old enough to read and decide for yourself)
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To: rhombus
He did the equivalent of bombing German factories in WWII

Actually he did the equivalent of fire bombing German citiesin WW2
38 posted on 11/13/2007 1:47:18 PM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
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To: Red Badger
Ignorant Northerners think the South is populated solely by inbred morons. Did I say Northerners? I meant liberals. Kinda reminds me of the "Vaccinate Yourself Before Attending Nascar" story a few weeks back.

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39 posted on 11/13/2007 1:51:30 PM PST by -=SoylentSquirrel=- (I'm really made of people!)
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To: SmithL

Good Lord!!! The libs are desperate. Worse, they think Southerners are as shallow as they are.

LOL!! You can’t make this stuff up.

(I don’t much care for Grant either, but Thompson has my vote if he is the nominee.....so does any Republican for that matter.)


40 posted on 11/13/2007 1:52:34 PM PST by Islander7 ("Show me an honest politician and I will show you a case of mistaken identity.")
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To: Kozak
Actually he did the equivalent of fire bombing German citiesin WW2

The plantation system supported the war effort and Sherman took it out.

41 posted on 11/13/2007 1:53:57 PM PST by rhombus
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To: Red Badger

Hey...

I am not in the KKK!!!


42 posted on 11/13/2007 1:54:51 PM PST by ejonesie22 (Real voters in real voting booths will elect FDT.)
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To: SmithL
It's not like he played Yosemite Sam in Looney Tunes:


43 posted on 11/13/2007 1:56:49 PM PST by Riodacat ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on." - WC)
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To: rhombus

UH huh. With a lot of towns, farms, livestock etc etc. Not exactly “precision daylight bombing”.


44 posted on 11/13/2007 1:57:43 PM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
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45 posted on 11/13/2007 1:58:21 PM PST by Politicalmom (Of the potential GOP front runners, FT has one of the better records on immigration.- NumbersUSA)
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To: SmithL
Re: Thompson Played Grant _ No Hero in South

Talk about liberal SFGate crap... the last film role Ronnie Reagan played was Jack Browning, a real rich, double-crossing POS SOB in 1964's The Killers.

And it did not seem to hurt him at all in the South, who, BTW, don't really like rich, double-crossing POS SOB like the Clintons at all!

46 posted on 11/13/2007 1:59:04 PM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Kozak
UH huh. With a lot of towns, farms, livestock etc etc. Not exactly “precision daylight bombing”.

Oh be serious here, that's exactly the types of things that supported the armies of the time. Sorry if your great, great granddaddy was involved. My father's people were from Florida so maybe mine were too. On the other hand my mother's people were from the north. Either way it's irrelevant. Sometimes you need to stand back and let the military do what the military does best... kill people and break things.

47 posted on 11/13/2007 2:04:47 PM PST by rhombus
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To: rhombus

Uncle Billy would have pacified Iraq good and proper.


48 posted on 11/13/2007 2:08:35 PM PST by isrul (Lamentations 5:2)
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To: isrul
Uncle Billy would have pacified Iraq good and proper.

Maybe, not sure. What he did worked to starve an army but an insurgency might be something different entirely. There was some anti-terrorist battles fought during reconstruction though that were pretty interesting.

49 posted on 11/13/2007 2:13:59 PM PST by rhombus
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To: rhombus

Actually my parents were on the ground just outside Dresden, being evacuated from the East and the onrushing Soviets, watched the firebombing from a railroad siding. I don’t dispute what Sherman did didn’t help end the war, it was just kind of indiscriminate.


50 posted on 11/13/2007 2:17:56 PM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
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