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Is this really it? (re: possible Obama's Kenyan B.C. - Attny Taitz) Click on the link
orlytaitzesq.com ^ | 8/2/2009 | rxsid

Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsid

Edited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]

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To: editor-surveyor; Technical Editor
"If you are located in the United States, you are subject to its laws."
 
I didn't write that nor have I ever written anything like it.  What are you talking about?

7,341 posted on 08/06/2009 10:05:55 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: null and void

I used the word hospital, but as even you must note, the base had a ‘clinic’ repeatedly updraged over the deacdes and quite capable of treating even surgical needs. Play gotcha with someone else, old FRiend.


7,342 posted on 08/06/2009 10:06:21 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Cymraeg; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; BP2; MeekOneGOP; ...

I am speaking as a lawyer with 40 years of experience and who tried hundreds of divorces.

LOL. Answering barackobama.com’s call to rally the troops, I see. He does needs all he can get, as it seems he's having a HARD time motivating his base.

Come on ... no law degree is necessary for this ... use your imagination ... put yourself back to early-1964, and pretend you're Judge King in the courtroom:

— three-year-old Obama JR wasn't probably present in the court room of the CIRCUIT COURT OF THE FIRST JUDICIAL CIRCUIT, now defunct. Ann Dunman, his mother, may have shown a picture to the judge. Or Obama JR may have been present, and the judge saw the child — who knows?

— the man who Ann claimed was the father, Obama SR, wasn't a participating father. The likelihood of him flying nearly 5,000 miles to Hawaii to protest the divorce, or ask for custody, was surely seen as very remote. Sure enough, he didn't even respond to the notification back in Boston — a no-show.

— Marriage Certificate? ALL modern searches by private investigators have NOT revealed it. It may exist, but it's not even searchable on Hawaiian document databases. The judge may not have asked to see that anyway — which is not necessary per se to award custody. Blood is thicker than water, anyway ... but someone has to get custody of the child, biologically-proven parents, relatives or the state of Hawaii ...

— there's no DNA testing in the 1960s.

— child smuggling DID take place in the 60s, as did child abduction.

And here's Ann, a lily-white 21-year-old woman from Kansas, asking for custody of a “mulatto” mixed-race baby that she claims to be hers. To put it in context: Black people only made up 0.8 percent of the Hawaiian population in 1960 and 1970. It's not racist to point this out — it's fact from the US Census and a reality of that racially-charged era — it would have been noticed.

So Judge King was likely curious, if not suspicious — most responsible judges, looking past the sobbing wife and her pin-stripped attorney, would be pondering "what's really going on here? Her husband is pursuing a doctorate in economics at Harvard, and yet she wants no child support or alimony ... hmmm."

He's not going to deny her a divorce as she claims "grievous mental suffering." BUT how's Judge King going to award custody — off of Ann's good word? I don't think so ... he'd turn to prima facie. I can hear his words now:

I'm going to ask for the mother to provide a copy of the birth certificate at our next hearing in March (1964). So ordered.”
Here’s the HAWAI‘I FAMILY COURT RULES for some reference on this:
http://www.state.hi.us/jud/ctrules/hfcr.htm

And keep in mind that Hawaiian law in the 1960s, especially in this old Circuit Court that dates back to when Hawaii had a King, didn't have such firm laws in place as we have today.

Everything wasn't codified as it is today. Judges had more discretion in those years shortly after statehood — and Judge King, who went on to be a Senior Judge at the US District Court in District of Hawaii — would have been irresponsible to NOT have exercised that discretion in such a situation.

Please take your "You people are grasping at straws" rhetoric elsewhere. If you weren't truly concerned about Mr. Obama's NBC status, you wouldn't be wasting your time conversing with people labeled by the Left as "crazy conspiracy nuts". LOL

7,343 posted on 08/06/2009 10:06:39 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: Technical Editor

Sorry about the formatting. Don’t know why it came out that way, with double spacing.


7,344 posted on 08/06/2009 10:07:02 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: The Viceroy
Welcome to Free Republic...YESTERDAY.

What motivated you to join our discussion group?
7,345 posted on 08/06/2009 10:09:40 AM PDT by CaptSkip
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To: Vendome

If he has webbed digits, he’s a frog?


7,346 posted on 08/06/2009 10:10:08 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 197 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: David

There is also a statement in the early version of the video interview which got removed at some point which indicates that the baby is the wrong color to be three weeks old at the time of the visit.
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What is that from ???

The photo of Obama as a baby lying on his tum with his head up ???

He would have to be about 3 months old at least in that pic

3 WEEK old babies dont usually do that...

Oh, silly me...

Obama is not usual....

He was born walking andf talking and organized his Kenyan community before he got his first diaper...

Never mind...


7,347 posted on 08/06/2009 10:10:13 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Vendome
Bwahahahaha ... so apropos!
7,348 posted on 08/06/2009 10:10:42 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Vendome

“My feeling is his opinions are owned 100% by him and he expresses them even in opposition to the rest of a round table but does so with certitude and conviction.”

Yes, That is my opinion too.

What a wonderful person.

“What’s up with your handle? I get the Gatún part but not the rest.”

My handle has been going loopy/crazy for over a year. At that time I mentioned it to a monitor for help, but nothing. Could it be on this end? Maybe it is a Panamanian thing.


7,349 posted on 08/06/2009 10:13:25 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Cymraeg

Had to make that dump twice? ... Forget to wipe yourself after the first dump, n00b?


7,350 posted on 08/06/2009 10:15:31 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN
I'm a Marine Corps Brat, I know the difference between a hospital and a dispensary. I myself have had occasional minor surgical procedures done in the dispensary. (They even let me watch!)

And yes, sometimes one would use the terms interchangeably.

They aren't quite...

In any event, the McCain BC says he was born in Colón, not on Coco Solo Naval base. Why would anyone forge a document to prove their ineligibility to be president???

7,351 posted on 08/06/2009 10:16:52 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 197 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: BP2

Applause!

While reading, the thought came to me: Could they have been married in Kenya? There would be no record in HI of that marriage.


7,352 posted on 08/06/2009 10:17:21 AM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: Cymraeg
You Birthers are a disgrace to America.

Yeah but they're fun to watch.

7,353 posted on 08/06/2009 10:17:57 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: BP2; Cymraeg; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; MeekOneGOP

Cymraeg:
What is the purpose of your handle anyway?

It is obviously an anagram:

C My Rage (Cymraeg).


7,354 posted on 08/06/2009 10:19:57 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer?

What does that mean?


7,355 posted on 08/06/2009 10:20:43 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer); Vendome

I think Vendome is curious as to why you self-selected that particular handle.

Now that you mention it, so am I...


7,356 posted on 08/06/2009 10:21:11 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 197 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: null and void

LOL!!!!


7,357 posted on 08/06/2009 10:21:37 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Cymraeg; BP2
I believe that you birthers want him out of the White House by any means whatsoever, legal or illegal. I have seen lies, forged documents, intentional misinterpretations of the law, attempts to intimidate judges and government officials, the advocacy of the violent overthrow of the government (this is treason punishable by death, remember Julius and Ethel Rosenberg).

Wrong. We simply want the Constitution of the United States to be followed. To date, you and your masters have provided no believable evidence that this is being done.

Your lying attempts at the intimidation of millions of Americans who simply want the truth, are duly noted.

I hope you will note that we are not intimidated.

You Birthers are a disgrace to America.

No, in fact, the disgrace lies upon the political and legal elites who strain at legal gnats while trying to force lawless camels down the throats of the American people. You have made the Constitution, the supreme law of the land, of no effect.

With the Constitution ignored, the only thing standing between us and despotism is the informed orneriness of We the People.

7,358 posted on 08/06/2009 10:21:38 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The only thing standing between us and despotism is the informed orneriness of We the People.)
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To: hoosiermama; All; BP2

Somewhere on this great, long thread there is a discussion about an interview of Ann Obama’s BABYSITTER that she used n Seattle when she was in school. Does anyone remember where that was? I’d like to make a note of its location because I’ve not seen it elsewhere.


7,359 posted on 08/06/2009 10:21:48 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: BP2

” Marriage Certificate? ALL modern searches by private investigators have NOT revealed it. It may exist,”

Even Barack Obama concedes that his parents may not have been married.
” Dreams From My Father “ by Barack Obama.
Page 22

“How and when the marriage occurred remains a bit murky ,a bill of particulars that I’ve never quite had the courage to explore.”

“ There’s no record of a real wedding, a cake , a ring, a giving away of the bride .”

“ No families in attendance ,
it’s not even clear that people back in Kansas were fully informed.”

But, after writing the above-
Obama says that it was just a
“ small civil ceremony with a Justice of the Peace.”

Obama writes that there’s no record of a real wedding, details are murky, even as to the date,
no families were notified or attended,
apparently not even the Dunhams and yet, he makes the leap that it was a small
civil ceremony with a JP.
Which should have left a record.
And why wasn’t there a notice in the newspaper ,
which is apparently the new standard for evidence ?


7,360 posted on 08/06/2009 10:24:12 AM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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