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Actually, this was germane. (germane means half german and half french)

"The g*ddamn Germans got nothin' to do with it."

You can not reasonably deny that NBC has been defined in Wong.

Yes I can. The answer lies in the language and source materials used at the time the Framers ratified the Constitution, as they indicate from Minor v. Happersett. And in that Constitutional-context, not a statutory-context, the issue has yet to be decided upon by the SCOTUS or via the Constitutional Amendment process.

And you sure can’t in the Indiana case. They come right out and say it, in what, one or two sentences.

I most certainly do! If YOUR interpretation of "see also, e.g., Diaz-Salazar v. I.N.S., 700 F.2d 1156, 1160 (7th Cir. 1983) (noting in its recitation of the facts that despite the fact father was not a citizen of the United States, he had children who were 'natural-born citizens of the United States')" falsely confirms that Obama is a NBC, I will affirm that it's a flawed and improperly applied lower court decision. In that regard, it is just like the 70 years of flawed decisions that emanated from the 1939 United States v. Miller SCOTUS Opinion that I schooled you on earlier.

Parsley, the only protesting is by After-Birthers who pick and choose SCOTUS Opinion citations like they're eating slop at a Chinese buffet!

(hey Monkey-boy, I think they're serving bananas for you over on the fruit bar)

I think you are worrying way too much about Diaz. Diaz does not help the Birther cause. Here’s the reality. In legal cases, one has to be realistic. Sometimes the law is just not one’s friend.

If it was, the Indiana birthers would have used Wong. Like I wrote in my totally unbiased and neutral thing for Non Legal Types, those who argue Obama is not an NBC-—do not rely or use Wong. To the contrary, they trash Wong and say bad and hurtful things about it. They would not do this if Wong was their friend. So all your “Wong doesn’t say NBC stuff or whatever” is belied by the actions of birthers who have gone to court.

That is one reason why I gave you the Indiana cite. So you could see how fair and balanced I have been. AND, I ain’t flopped all over the place. I have stayed with Wong and that little Indiana case. There are a whole bunch of other cases I could lay on you. I haven’t because non-legal types would just get more confused.

What you need to do is just accept reality. You have done a good job of trying to wiggle out of Wong, but it ain’t gonna happen. You need to do with Wong, what Andy Griffith and Barney did with Aunt Bea’s homemade pickles——learn to like ‘em.

parsy, who says this has been fun