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To: edge919

I’ve tried asking for the index data for the certificate with #xxxxxx.

They told me they couldn’t give me any information because I had not shown that I have a direct and tangible interest in President Obama’s birth certificate.

So then I asked them where Obama’s name came from, noting that their answer only made sense if the cert# I asked for was for Obama’s birth certificate. I asked them to clarify whether that was really the answer they meant to give me.

It was actually a hilarious run-around they did, except that it totally ignored the rules. I’m sure that runaround where she never gave an answer that even made sense probably convinced Takase that I’m “mentally ill” since I can’t even recognize when I’ve been given the answer. lol.

So then I requested a non-certified copy of Obama’s abbreviated birth certificate - which would have the certificate number on it and is directly authorized for release to me. No, they won’t follow those rules either.

I actually only went public with any of this stuff once I was convinced that there was no way I could get anything due me from the DOH. The OIP is now letting the DOH decide what the legal answers should be. The ombudsman refuses to investigate. The courts are an option but I don’t have the money to even bring a suit and I also believe that Obama went to Hawaii to buy off the judges who would be involved.

I truly believe that they will continue to break their laws until somebody FORCES them to stop. The only way I know to try to force them to stop breaking their laws is through public exposure which creates public demand for the law to be followed.

I think the article by the Honolulu Advertiser said that Okubo was working on these requests by herself. Which I thought was funny because her responses always refer to “we”.

I think the HDOH is onto me now though. lol. If you wanted to make that request, OIP Opinion Letter 90-04 notes the grandfathering principle for UIPA, and 90-23 notes what was required to be included in index data before UIPA was passed. More explanation at http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2010/02/12/birth-certificate-number-must-be-disclosed/


2,009 posted on 02/28/2010 12:00:10 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion
They told me they couldn’t give me any information because I had not shown that I have a direct and tangible interest in President Obama’s birth certificate.

I understand, however, by specifically citing the opinion letter that says direct and tangible interest isn't needed (90-23), you could force the issue ... especially if you submit the request to a different party at the DOH.

You could even quote this from the opinion letter:

Similarly, index data concerning vital events may also be inspected without the showing required by section 338-18(b),

Personally I'd copy the e-mail to the OIP and to Dan Nakaso at the Honolulu Advertiser and ask for Kurt to reply to all message reciepients.

2,011 posted on 02/28/2010 12:11:51 PM PST by edge919
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