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Baby Snatching: It's Hilarious When We Just Don't Like Their Kind (Oathkeepers individual)
Reason Magazine ^ | October 8, 2010 | Brian Doherty

Posted on 10/09/2010 4:18:34 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Smokin' Joe
I was following this case on three different webforums. Your assessment is not only spot on, but remarkably well said.

Kudos...

21 posted on 10/10/2010 8:26:57 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (III, Alarm and Muster)
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To: Dead Corpse
Thanks!

I can think of no Hell on Earth quite like being branded as something you loathe unjustly, punished as if you are guilty without the level of due process a common criminal would warrant, trying to sleep at night tortured by the absence of your children and the constant uncertainty as to their welfare--and that is only the parent's perspective, the children are traumatized as well.

We have empowered no other part of our government to be as invasive or authoritarian with little or no evidence and thus have opened a Pandora's box of capricious action based on hearsay, supposition, and arbitrary standards often imposed by people who have only a theoretical knowledge of child-rearing.

Unfortunately, rather than confine this leviathan within the constraints of the Constitution, we have used the exceptions granted (for the children, of course) as a model of how to circumvent the protections for the accused in our system of jurisprudence, something which is clearly the action of those who view those Constitutional protections as an obstacle rather than sane constraint.

When (if) the time comes that totalitarianism rears its ugly head on these shores, I hope the survivors of the strife which ensues remember, I hope they carve in stone, that the door was opened to that Evil not by the external force of an overwhelming army but from within by those who claimed to do so for the children.

22 posted on 10/10/2010 9:32:46 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

There will always be those even in conservative circles, who think this kind of constitutional abomination is acceptable because we must protect the innocent children.

They will be singing a different tune when they are the accused and their parental rights are trampled all over because some nasty neighbor doesn’t like the way they are raising their children or just doesn’t like them period.

Yes I believe that truly abused children need to be protected. However, the foster care system is so overrun with children that don’t need to be there that CPS has to place children in questionable homes. What ends up happening then? The children that were never abused at home end up abused in the system. Children are many more time likely to be abused in the system than they are at home.

If you have a case of abuse, arrest the abuser, try them in a court of law and THEN take their children. This preemptive kidnapping of children is an outrage and ANYONE that thinks this is okay or even a necessary evil is not a conservative, IMHO.


23 posted on 10/10/2010 10:05:25 AM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3
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If you have a case of abuse, arrest the abuser, try them in a court of law and THEN take their children.

Exactly.

This preemptive kidnapping of children is an outrage and ANYONE that thinks this is okay or even a necessary evil is not a conservative, IMHO.

While it is often tempting to cut corners for extraordinary situations, we must recall that many of those who espouse such hold our system of government in contempt.

They have long espoused one thing: control.

We have no culture if our children are homogenized by the state. If the parental influence on our children is minimized or eliminated, all we have then is a breeding farm for worker drones to be programmed as those who control the State see fit.

Every totalitarian society has sought to control the children first.

24 posted on 10/10/2010 10:41:52 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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