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WE'RE ALL BIRTHERS NOW: The Long-Form Obama Birth Certificate DOES NOT EXIST
Reaganite Republican ^ | January 26, 2011 | Reaganite Republican

Posted on 01/26/2011 5:57:29 AM PST by Reaganite Republican

Hawai'i election official's sworn affadavit: 
"No Obama birth certificate exists"


ALL Americans who support our nation's Constitution and election laws must now ask: WHERE IS IT? As the Obama birth certificate controversy drags-on, any unbiased observer could tell you that events are strengthening the birthers' case by the day... not the other way around.

Oczam's razor theory dictates that if they can't find it... there must not be one. This would also provide the most viable explanation for why Obama has spent almost $2M fighting the claims in court. And to since it's a principle requirement for presidential eligibility... would someone please tell me WHY the burden of proof is on us

How'd this guy even get a passport without a long-form birth certificate, anyway...

"During the course of my employment," Adams swears in the affidavit (viewable in full as part 1 and part 2), "I became aware that many requests were being made to the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division, the Hawaii Office of Elections, and the Hawaii Department of Health from around the country to obtain a copy of then-Senator Barack Obama's long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate." 

As he inquired about the birth certificate, he says, his supervisors told him that the records were not on file at the Hawaii Department of Health. "Senior officers in the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division told me on multiple occasions that no Hawaii long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Senator Obama in the Hawaii Department of Health," Adams' affidavit reads, "and there was no record that any such document had ever been on file in the Hawaii Department of Health or any other branch or department of the Hawaii government." 

Tim Adams
Tim Adams, former senior elections clerk for Honolulu In a recorded telephone interview, Adams told WND that it was common knowledge among election officials where he worked that no long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate could be found at the Hawaii Department of Health. "My supervisor came and told me, 'Of course, there's no birth certificate. What? You stupid,'" Adams said. "She usually spoke well, but in saying this she reverted to a Hawaiian dialect. I really didn't know how to respond to that. She said it and just walked off. She was quite a powerful lady." 

Moreover, Adams was told that neither Queens Memorial Hospital nor Kapi'olani Medical Center had any records of Obama's birth at their medical facilities: "Senior officers in the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division further told me on multiple occasions that Hawaii State government officials had made inquires about Sen. Obama's birth records to officials at Queens Medical Center and Kapi'olani Medical Center in Honolulu and that neither hospital had any record of Senator Obama having been born there, even though Governor Abercrombie is now asserting and various Hawaii government officials continue to assert Barack Obama Jr. was born at Kapi'olani Medical Center on Aug. 4, 1961." 

"We called the two hospitals in Honolulu: Queens and Kapi'olani," Adams stressed. "Neither of them have any records that Barack Obama was born there."


The debate has been recently been amplified by Hawaii's weird hippy Governor Neil Abercrombie -a far-Left freak who was previously a member of the US House Progressive Caucus and a personal friend and college classmate of both of Obama's parents. Abercrombie  made an ill-advised claim during his 2010 gubernatorial campaign that he would soon put a rest to all this, stating he was on a  "mission" to "quell" the birthers- as the polemic has "implications for 2012 that we simply cannot have."

But there is no Obama birth certificate... there never was.  So now he's hiding behind Hawaii's state AG, who says there is a privacy law that prohibits Abercrombie from doing as he promised (unless Obama gave him permission, of course):

State Attorney General David Louie told the governor that privacy laws bar him from disclosing an individual’s birth documentation without the person’s consent, Abercrombie spokeswoman Donalyn Dela Cruz said Friday.

“There is nothing more that Gov. Abercrombie can do within the law to produce a document,” said Dela Cruz. 

“Unfortunately, there are conspirators who will continue to question the citizenship of our president.” 

Conspirators! That's rich- but condescension and slander coming from nervous Dems does little to re-assure thinking persons that this man is acutally qualified to be US President: on the contrary, this defensive, diversionary behavior speaks volumes. Clearly those propping up this Trojan Horse of a president have nothing left but mocking the inquisitors- but as Margaret Thatcher once said: "... if they attack one personally, it means they have not a single political argument left." And indeed they do not-


Delving a little farther back, Obama even admitted himself that he wasn't qualified for the presidency in the 2004 Keyes-Obama Senate campaign debate, but the video of this was scrubbed from YouTube, according to Good Ole Boy at RealAmericanPolitics

Keyes caught him off guard... and Obama spilled:

I watched the entire first and second debates.  I distinctly remember that I had never heard of Obama; my interest was in seeing what Keyes said about the pro-life issue and school vouchers.

At one point in the second debate, Keyes, accused Obama saying, “You are not even a natural born citizen!”
To which Obama immediately replied, “So what? I am running for Illinois Senator, not the presidency.”

At the end of the airing of the second debate, the C-Span host noted, as he read from a single sheet of paper, placed before him, that the Obama Campaign had contacted them and requested them to point out to their viewers that Obama’s response here should not be understood as a denial that he is a natural born citizen, only that Keyes’ accusation had nothing to do with the qualifications of office of a U.S. Senator...

Today... with even Chris Matthews saying "why not just put it out?"- I unapologetically throw my hat in with the birthers... time to cough it up or step-down, Barry. Even is some obscure court ruling keeps Obama in office... this man must not be allowed to run for re-election in 2012. 

And when the day comes when we remove this tumor from the neck of the American eagle... Obama and his accomplices must be punished harshly for not just violation of oath, but the myriad crimes committed in covering-up lack of qualification for US president, up to and including perjury. And that means the entire Obama campaign team, lawyers, and most of the DNC... you're all going to pay dearly for this one.

Get on the stick, GOP congressman... 
where's the subpoenas? 

The survival of American democracy demands justice- and so do we.
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To: Ballygrl
get all the Conservatives questioning his eligibility based on his unwillingness to produce BC and then just before the elections, provide it, thereby assuring him a victory

If Arizona gets its eligibility law passed through the Senate it won't matter. Obama would have to produce it prior to getting his name on the ballot, an October surprise would be too late.

61 posted on 01/26/2011 7:18:20 AM PST by conservativegramma
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To: Conan the Conservative

Before we get over excited, this guy is just an election official, not an official from the Office of Records. The fact that he has sworn that someone told him something is not proof.


Not proof inside a court room. But enough, with all the other data, to justify an investigation. Also Albercrumbie admitted in an newspaper interview that there is no birth document; just a notation in Obama’s file. He’s since changed his story when he realized what a mess he is making.

There is more than enough proof to indict a the ham sandwich in the White House.


62 posted on 01/26/2011 7:25:05 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Ballygrl

And the Republicans are doing what?


The Republicans know and they coordinated an attack on “birthers” to keep everyone in line with the lie. I would bet Juan’s democrat campaign staff led this strategy to shut down any questions on Obama’s qualifications during and after the election. It was a “don’t ask, don’t tell” strategy of bi-partisan treason.


63 posted on 01/26/2011 7:28:22 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Rashputin

The constitution is not up for majority vote! It does not matter if the majorty wants to obey the constitution or not. This is a legal matter and some day it will be. I think the Republicans would do best for themselves to not get any deeper in abetting the crime than they already have.


64 posted on 01/26/2011 7:30:56 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Reaganite Republican
Look, the guy doesn't have a long form BC from Hawaii. He wasn't born in a hospital there. Even if he was born in a pineapple patch in Hawaii he could not PROVE it. His documentation in Hawaii (if any) is a document by a relative stating he was born in Hawaii. This allows him to get a type of Hawaiian birth certificate. The trouble with that is that no matter where you were really born, (Kenya for example), you could get one of those. So because of the lax Hawaiian law, a birth certificate from Hawaii back then of that type, wasn't worth the paper it was printed on.

This is why he will not show his Hawaiian documentation. I am assuming he has something since officials said he did and it would to be hard to believe he would claim birth there with absolutely NOTHING.

I personally believe the birth certificate from Coast Province General Hospital, Mombasa, British Protectorate of Kenya, produced by Lucas Smith, is the REAL Obama birth certificate. Although Lucas Smith is a scumbag and an opportunist, it might be that it took just such a person to be able to acquire this document.

I could find nothing to disprove the validity of the document. All the arguments brought forward that I saw could be explained away when the details were checked into. Like that Mombasa wasn't part of Kenya at the time, details people details, those pesky facts that come up when you look into the details.

The truth will one day come out. I hope it is sooner rather than later.

65 posted on 01/26/2011 7:33:31 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: Puppage

It is not shameful that it was not a written law before now. What is shameful is that now we have such a corrupt elite that it has to be written in law or they will all conspire to violate the constitution and commit treason.

In the past, the opposing political party and the media would have sunk USS Keyna way before the election. They would have been on Obama for hiding all his records. But in this culture of humanism, dishonesty and getting away with breaking the law, is King. They think they are above the rule of law. They think they have progressed beyond the constitution.


66 posted on 01/26/2011 7:35:58 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Rashputin

We’ll have to agree to disagree. The paper, the ink, finger prints or lack thereof. Forensics would be able to prove the document a NEW document, not one from 1961.


67 posted on 01/26/2011 7:36:46 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: Reaganite Republican

The question at the Keyes/Obama debate has never been verified.


68 posted on 01/26/2011 7:37:59 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously..... You won't live through it anyway.)
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To: Reaganite Republican

If there is no long form bc, where did the short form (the document the White-House released) come from? Isn’t the short form a more brief version of the long form?


69 posted on 01/26/2011 7:38:03 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: Padams

Obviously, none of us know for sure. I think it exists and Obama doesn’t want to show it.

There isn't a single shred of evidence that can be shown that would lead anyone to conclude that Obama's birth certificate really exists.

It's time rational common-sense thinking people come to the conclusion that all the non-evidence points to: There is no birth certificate.

This isn't rocket engineering. No one has seen it, no one knows where it is and the one person who can put this matter to rest has sealed all his records and has spend millions barring anyone from seeing the truth.

It doesn't matter WHY he is hiding the truth, the sad fact is that he IS hiding the truth.

70 posted on 01/26/2011 7:38:03 AM PST by garybob (More sweat in training, less blood in combat.)
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To: Reaganite Republican

“FREE THE LONG FORM!”


71 posted on 01/26/2011 7:41:27 AM PST by Dryman ("FREE THE LONG FORM!")
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To: conservativegramma

“There is more than enough circumstantial evidence going on that warrants an investigation. Not investigating and continuing to sweep this gorilla under the rug does even more damage to credibility.”

I only wish the MSM would put 1/10 as much effort into this as they did investigating GW Bush’s National Guard records. It would be the blockbuster story of the century. I think the Abercrombie thing has them spooked. A few weeks ago Chris Mathews was urging Obama to release the certificate, now he and his friends are calling the whole controversy “crazy talk”. It seems to me that based on comments by his wife, his granny, the Governor and others, that there is MORE evidence that he is NOT a citizen than that he is.


72 posted on 01/26/2011 7:43:16 AM PST by Conan the Conservative (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of the hippies.)
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy

I grabbed a copy of the Kenyan birth certificate off the net.... and I think I still have it on one of my drives.

When I was in Africa at the time of the elections, people there were very happy that a man born in Africa was about to become the Pres of the US!


73 posted on 01/26/2011 7:43:31 AM PST by himno hero
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To: Reaganite Republican

Want something to think about? Hussein is directly responsible for record breaking 2010 election losses for his party. If he continues to threaten the Democrat party will disastrous losses in 2012, it may be a DEMOCRAT who turns on “dear Leader”, demanding he produce his certificate!! This, of course, to remove the deadly Hussein from the 2012 election equation and make Dems look “patriotic and honest!”


74 posted on 01/26/2011 7:44:16 AM PST by Oldpuppymax
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To: silverleaf

Still don’t see much chance of it happening, but IF it is shown that he is not qualified to be POTUS, does that not invalidate every single law that he signed and passed????????

“Enquiring minds want to know....”


75 posted on 01/26/2011 7:47:02 AM PST by Arlis (- Virginia loghome/woods-dweller/Jesus lovin'/Bible-totin'/"gun-clinger")
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To: Conan the Conservative

Are elections officials and governors paid by the taxpayers to lie? Abercrombie and Tim Adams’ supervisors agree. Fukino mentioned an “original birth certificate” and “vital records”, but the HDOH in official communications has indirectly confirmed that Obama’s records have been amended and are thus not legally valid.

So we’ve got THREE officials of the Hawaii government agreeing that Hawaii has no valid birth documentation for Obama. Those three confirmations being given in different ways over a 3-year period.

That’s not just an Obama ploy to make “birthers” look crazy.


76 posted on 01/26/2011 7:47:12 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: garybob

I could not get a US passport without a certified copy of my Birth Certificate. I had a copy but not a certified copy from a records official from where I was born. I had to pay to have an official certified copy sent to me by Federal Express. Telling them it was lost or there was a notation in the files of Ohio would have gotten me laughed out of town hall. Giving them an internet address to see my birth certificate would not have worked either.

No way can Obama legally claim that he can be President without a certified birth certificate. There are long established rules and regulations for official birth documentation in the US.


77 posted on 01/26/2011 7:47:48 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Conan the Conservative

Yep, I hear you. If even 10% of this stuff had been attached to GW Bush it would have been 24/7 news stories and howling and gnashing of teeth from the liberal media. Plus there would have been 0% freepers whining about how it makes us look, we need to just move on, etc. etc.

It seems the only time adhering to the constitution is important is during GOP administrations......


78 posted on 01/26/2011 7:49:40 AM PST by conservativegramma
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To: YankeeReb
I have the feeling he was air dropped from some communist block country and elected state senator of IL.

I have always wondered if perhaps he was born in the Soviet Union, which is where Obama Sr's brother lived at that time (going to Patrice Lamumba University, I believe).

79 posted on 01/26/2011 7:50:37 AM PST by livius
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To: Rashputin

The key to discovering forgeries would be to look not only at ALL the birth and citizenship records, but also at the transaction logs for each, to see when the record originated and what changes were made to it.

There is already a transaction log for Obama’s passport records that we know has been illegally accessed at least 3 times - which was allowable because somebody high up in John Brennan’s company specifically disabled the security protocols just during the times that those 3 breaches happened. John Brennan was immediately appointed as National Security Chief after the election. The investigation of those breaches, under the watchful eye of Joe Biden (who Obama offered a VP job) has been heavily redacted and Condi Rice has said there are NOT assurances that the records are accurate.

All this, together with the automatic date stamp which reveals that somebody at the Selective Service Administration forged a registration for Obama, are very good reasons that states should pass an eligibility bill not only requiring documentation of birth and citizenship facts, but should also require transaction logs for the official records.


80 posted on 01/26/2011 7:53:53 AM PST by butterdezillion
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