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Where Does a Cop With an 80-pound Dog Search? Anywhere He Wants.
Townhall.com ^ | February 27, 2013 | Jacob Sullum

Posted on 02/27/2013 5:08:50 PM PST by Kaslin

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To: Alaska Wolf

Cops lie as part of their job. That’s how they get information and elicit confessions. They teach it in criminology. How many of them in uniform lie for personal gain and to get themselves out of trouble? Well let’s see...take 100 police officers, subtract the number that are saints, and you’ve got your percentage.


141 posted on 03/01/2013 6:17:36 PM PST by fattigermaster (Train for life in prison because they are stacking the bricks and setting the bars around you.)
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To: Alaska Wolf
A relevant FR thread...Why Police Officers Lie Under Oath
142 posted on 03/01/2013 6:22:32 PM PST by fattigermaster (Train for life in prison because they are stacking the bricks and setting the bars around you.)
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To: dirtboy

The idiot is the person who believes a false positive will result in the confiscation of big bucks. That is you!


143 posted on 03/01/2013 6:24:28 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: fattigermaster
Cops lie as part of their job.

Then you are claiming all cops lie and can't be trusted. Are they all out to get you?

144 posted on 03/01/2013 6:30:30 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: supercat

I mostly agree with you. At a minimum, the dog’s training and experience ought to be an issue that could be raised.

I personally think drug dogs should be used to search for terrorist types, and stay out of the drug wars.


145 posted on 03/01/2013 6:39:18 PM PST by Mr Rogers (America is becoming California, and California is becoming Detroit. Detroit is already hell.)
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To: fattigermaster; Nifster
A relevant FR thread...Why Police Officers Lie Under Oath

A very relevant response.

I object to drawing broad conclusions from individual examples. Because the police in the Bronx or NYC think that ‘making numbers’ is their job does NOT mean that every PD or even every officer thinks or behaves that way.

I find it interesting that this an ever increasing effort to make our police officers out as the bad guy and never to be trusted no matter what. Across this nation there are many local PDs and Sheriffs offices that do a very tough job and do it well.

I am tired of the singularities thrown about as proof

5 posted on Monday, February 04, 2013 2:04:11 PM by Nifster

146 posted on 03/01/2013 6:39:57 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: Alaska Wolf; dirtboy; All
The idiot is the person who believes a false positive will result in the confiscation of big bucks. That is you!

So you're saying police officers are idiots?

LAS VEGAS --A group of Nevada Highway Patrol troopers and a retired police sergeant have filed a racketeering complaint against the NHP and Las Vegas Metro Police in U.S. District Court...The complaint alleges that the drug-sniffing dogs used by troopers in the program were intentionally being trained to operate as so-called trick ponies, or dogs that provide officers false alerts for the presence of drugs.

The dogs were being trained to alert their handlers by cues, instead of by picking up a drug's scent by sniffing, the complaint said. When a dog gives a false alert, this resulted in illegal searches and seizures, including money and property, the complaint said...The 103-page complaint alleges that Perry, along with others, used the K-9s to undermine the program to systematically conduct illegal searches and seizures for financial benefit.

So now you're saying the police officers who witnessed illegal searches for financial gain are idiots? Or are you saying all police officers are idiots? I want an answer!!

;^)

147 posted on 03/01/2013 6:50:36 PM PST by fattigermaster (Train for life in prison because they are stacking the bricks and setting the bars around you.)
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To: Alaska Wolf
Then you are claiming all cops lie and can't be trusted.

99.999% correct...congratulations, that's the sanest remark you've made on this thread.

148 posted on 03/01/2013 6:57:52 PM PST by fattigermaster (Train for life in prison because they are stacking the bricks and setting the bars around you.)
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To: fattigermaster
So you're saying police officers are idiots?

No, is English too difficult for you? Do you know what this means, "That is you!"?

149 posted on 03/01/2013 7:22:53 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: fattigermaster
that's the sanest remark you've made

Then you are claiming all cops lie and can't be trusted. Your remark, not mine. Did you ever get beyond the third grade?

150 posted on 03/01/2013 7:27:00 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: fattigermaster
So now you're saying the police officers who witnessed illegal searches for financial gain are idiots?

No, that would be you. Remember you claim 99.999% are liars . How do you know the complainants aren't?

151 posted on 03/01/2013 7:37:57 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: Alaska Wolf
"In my younger days I was a sales rep for a large beer, wine and liquor distributor. We didn't handle Chivas. We had Johnnie Walker, J&B, Teachers, Ushers, Famous Grouse, Something Special, Grants, 100 Pipers, Glenlivet, White Horse and Ballantines."

FINALLY the cause of ypur brain-dead posts is explained...!

152 posted on 03/01/2013 8:18:25 PM PST by fattigermaster (Train for life in prison because they are stacking the bricks and setting the bars around you.)
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To: fattigermaster
ypur brain-dead posts

Yours are from a genetic defect? LOL!

153 posted on 03/01/2013 8:21:52 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: Terry Mross

Sounds like the handler hadn’t had a “hit” and cued the dog, either intentionally or no.

A dog responds in a way that he believes will please his alpha.


154 posted on 03/01/2013 10:10:40 PM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Alaska Wolf

It isn’t about false positives. It is about illegal searches. A dog trained to give a false positive allows an illegal search to go down.

If you can’t grasp that, you are a true jackass.

From #147:

http://www.8newsnow.com/story/18886948/nhp-troopers-sue-department-over-k-9-program

The 103-page complaint alleges that Perry, along with others, used the K-9s to undermine the program to systematically conduct illegal searches and seizures for financial benefit.


Cops rarely report each other. That Thin Blue Line mindset.

This must have been truly egregious for a lawsuit to have been filed by other troopers.

And, true to form, you have ignored that post that shows irrefutable abuse of the use of drug-sniffing dogs and instead try to divert the discussion away from it.

You are not interested in debate. Just derailing it.


155 posted on 03/02/2013 4:47:52 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: Mr Rogers

Yes, I was talking about state courts, which I thought I made clear in my post; you however were talking about courts with no qualifier, even implicitly from context.


156 posted on 03/02/2013 8:12:29 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Alaska Wolf

Are all people in any given profession either liars or truth tellers? Yes or no.


157 posted on 03/02/2013 8:41:54 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Alaska Wolf
What makes you believe bomb and drug dog handlers want false positives?

Because the fact that a car doesn't contain drugs doesn't mean it won't have something else of interest. For example, cops may know that people driving to or from a flea market are likely to have large amounts of cash. Drug-dog alert plus large amount of cash equals free money for the cop's department. Some victims may successfully sue to get their money back, but in most cases the robbers will get to keep it.

158 posted on 03/02/2013 11:01:15 AM PST by supercat (Renounce Covetousness.)
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To: dirtboy
http://www.8newsnow.com/story/18886948/nhp-troopers-sue-department-over-k-9-program

If cops are all liars, how do you know the complainants aren't?

Cops rarely report each other. That Thin Blue Line mindset.

How about teachers, doctors, lawyers stockbrokers, politicians and financiers? Just because you carry wood for cops doesn't make them any more guilty of protecting their own than other professions.

you have ignored that post that shows irrefutable abuse of the use of drug-sniffing dogs

Ignored? I posted directly from the link about the UCD report. Are you blinded by your pathological hatred or just oblivious?

159 posted on 03/02/2013 11:08:24 AM PST by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: Cyber Liberty
Are all people in any given profession either liars or truth tellers? Yes or no.

From personal experience I would have to answer most all are truth tellers.

Has there been a credible study with published conclusions stating otherwise??

160 posted on 03/02/2013 11:16:55 AM PST by Alaska Wolf (I)
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