“If you have nothing to hide you got nothing to fear right?”
I never said that and you are putting words into my mouth.
What I find interesting is that you site a time in our society when a man advancing on police would be taken down without firing a gun.....Really??? What I remember is time when thugs didn’t just randomly rob people and attack anyone who came there way. Perhaps it is the same time period because people didn’t attack the police....but when they did they got beat nearly to death. I guess that might be better.
It is a leftists dream to have the population not the trust the police because then chaos and anarchy are easy to foment. The left is doing all it can to stoke the flames.
I also never said one should ‘obey’ every order. Painting with a broad brush ruins your argument and makes it impossible to focus on what is.
“Obviously if sentiments like yours are a majority - we do not deserve liberty in this country and deserve what we get.” You don’t know what my sentiments are. You did set up straw arguments and then use this as proof that we are all lost. You learned well from the left and the likes of Alex Jones.
If you want to have a discussion based on what I actually said fine but do not put words into my mouth.
The police largely only have themselves to blame. How many stories do we read now nearly daily of cops shooting family pets because the dog was barking at them - EVEN from within a fenced back yard belonging to another homeowner?
The near-constant stories of no-knock raids that kill or injure innocents?
The fact that in courtrooms, when contesting a cop, you will be told that your words and witness testimony is irrelevant because the cop's word trumps yours?
My family has been at the receiving end of corrupt cop brutality and a perverted Just-Us system - so they lost any respect I once had for them. The news of late just confirms that distrust.
I also never said one should ‘obey’ every order.
I was responding to the statement that justified the shooting because the perp "did not obey commands". If it is policy that a citizen will be shot if they do not follow police commands (dangerous for the medicated, elderly and schizophrenics) - then the fact is - we live in a police state, and cops are no better than the Gestapo or the NKVD were in those regimes.
You learned well from the left and the likes of Alex Jones.
I loathe Alex Jones as much as I do Ron Paul. What was it you were saying about putting words in the mouth and straw-arguments'??
“It is a leftists dream to have the population not the trust the police because then chaos and anarchy are easy to foment. The left is doing all it can to stoke the flames.”
How is it philosophically consistent for one to believe in limited government and criticize an anonymous leftist for criticizing corrupt behavior in government employees?
Moreover, how is it philosophically consistent to advocate shrinking the size and scope of government, yet make defenses for employees of a branch of governance which yearly *expanding* in size and scope?
Would that the hypothetical leftist would broaden his criticism to all government employees (if he hasn’t already).
Would that the conservative would realize that he is aiding and abetting the growth and power of an intrusive monolith, to which he claims to be opposed, by his actions.
Freegards,