[Molon Labbie]

INVAR, that’s nice congratulations.

Ever heard of Dan Inosanto, of course you have.

Master Inosanto taught police officers that if you ever get into a conflict with someone with a knife, you WILL get cut and you had better shoot them. Further, he said if you ever confront someone that appears to be a practitioner, you better seriously consider shooting them too.

Further, police academies and agencies have only some much time to devote to self defense and certainly not 28 years to become proficient. The have to work with simple striking and joint lock techniques that don’t require months and months of practice to master. For example, punching a suspect in the face is considered a red zone strike since there is the high likelyhood of serious physical injury or even death in some cases. The use of force matrix does not strictly forbid it but allows it if an officer is assaulted in a similiar fashion.

Again, nothing against your art, but the police use of force experts, many of whom are practitioners, have the real world experience, history and evidence to design techniques that work for police officers.

[kiryandil]

Master Inosanto taught police officers that if you ever get into a conflict with someone with a knife, you WILL get cut and you had better shoot them.

Guess Mistress Inosanto never heard of putting several tons of steel & rubber in betwixt you & your assailant.

So, he's wrong.

[kiryandil]

Many of the police types on FR make it sound like a War Zone out there, with breathless posts of this sort.

Frankly, I'm not impressed, being as how I'm a pretty good shot, and I have acute situational awareness. Try it sometime.

[INVAR]

Master Inosanto taught police officers that if you ever get into a conflict with someone with a knife, you WILL get cut and you had better shoot them. Further, he said if you ever confront someone that appears to be a practitioner, you better seriously consider shooting them too.

That's not ANY kind of "master" (Sabumnim) I would follow and learn from.

Our Instructors always emphasized AVOIDING a conflict; situational awareness and talking oneself out of combat if possible. Defense and disarming a knife-wielder is one of the key training disciplines taught in self-defense classes.

In fact, it is one of the main training focuses on women's self defense classes since rapists generally like to use those to force themselves on victims.

Further, police academies and agencies have only some much time to devote to self defense

Then they SHOULD NOT be police officers. Period.

One knife-wielding suspect, TWO officers, batons, mace, taser, rubber bullets or beanbag, a police cruiser - and we are really going lie to ourselves and say that the cops were in danger and had to kill the moron?

If we have arrived at the point where it is policy for cops to shoot-to-kill anytime they assert they 'feel threatened', then we are become like the regimes our grandparents fought against. We are no longer a free people. We are already subjugated.

but the police use of force experts, many of whom are practitioners, have the real world experience, history and evidence to design techniques that work for police officers.

Which apparently is become "empty your magazine into whomever makes you feel 'threatened'. That's a military mindset. Not the mindset our police officers should have in the midst of 'protecting and serving' a citizenry.

Which is why we read about myriad stories like this and the epidemic of shooting people's pets and innocents caught in the mindset of a military operation.

[Shimmer1]

Sure, all that PLUS they are putting themselves first in almost all situations, the populace be damned.