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Downtrend HuffPo: Shooting In Self-Defense Is Illegal Because It Denies Violent Criminals A Fair Tri
Downtrend ^ | April 28, 2016 | Brian Anderson

Posted on 04/30/2016 2:23:11 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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1 posted on 04/30/2016 2:23:11 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The entitlement is to a “fair AND SPEEDY” trial. Shooting on sight gets him at least 50% of his rights. That seems to be more than they want to give us, don’t you think?


2 posted on 04/30/2016 2:29:22 AM PDT by Rapscallion (You are correct. It IS a conspiracy, not a bad dream.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Self defense is racist


3 posted on 04/30/2016 2:29:42 AM PDT by 4rcane
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To: Rapscallion

Oooops. Meant to say “self defense” not “shoot on sight”. Ugh.


4 posted on 04/30/2016 2:39:27 AM PDT by Rapscallion (You are correct. It IS a conspiracy, not a bad dream.)
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To: 4rcane

Obviously.


5 posted on 04/30/2016 2:45:01 AM PDT by OddLane
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The person being killed is denied their right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Those 3 rights trump the 1 right to a trail.


6 posted on 04/30/2016 2:50:43 AM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The attacker has voluntarily nullified his rights the moment the attack begins by virtue of the attempt to infringe upon and/or deny the attacked person’s rights.

Your right to swing your fist ends just before you make contact with any part of my body.


7 posted on 04/30/2016 2:51:04 AM PDT by Don W ( When blacks riot, neighborhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

To even engage in a discussion with Justin Curmi about this would be a form of perverted mental masturbation of the absurd. His contention is insane and any consideration of it legitimizes him even more.


8 posted on 04/30/2016 3:00:41 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If you do indeed shoot someone, make sure it is a legal self defence and shoot to kill.
Avoid being sued for damages or injuries.


9 posted on 04/30/2016 3:09:36 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (500 years ago we had Shakesphere, obammys people live in mud huts still. Go figure)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So what this guy is essentially saying is that his right to a trial is more important than my life, because if he is willing to break into my home, he may be willing to take my life.


10 posted on 04/30/2016 3:11:07 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

One can only hope that brian anderson or a family member is violently accosted and we will see a change in him and if we dont he is mentally ill


11 posted on 04/30/2016 3:16:40 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: ronnie raygun

You mean Justin Curmi, not Brian Anderson.


12 posted on 04/30/2016 3:22:59 AM PDT by Blennos
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rights are balanced against each other not equal.

E.g., you can’t deny my right to shoot somebody because it denies my free speech - I am expressing my displeasure with them.

In that case, the victim’s life is more important than your speech. If you don’t believe that, shoot somebody you don’t like and see what happens.


13 posted on 04/30/2016 3:25:05 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What I missed in those debates is that the Bill of Rights is what the government cannot take from you. It dies not govern the conduct of individuals. If you’re in my home, I have every right to not respect your rights. If I’m in your home, you can do the same to me.


14 posted on 04/30/2016 3:30:48 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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The main problem with the notion of self-defense is it imposes on justice, for everyone has the right for a fair trial.

The Left never defines the term, 'justice.' If they did, their irrational, bumper-sticker fallacies would disintegrate. The ambiguity surrounding their use of 'justice' lets them get away with an assortment of dangerous fuzzy ideas, such as social justice, environmental justice, racial justice, . . .

OTOH, we conservatives should regard justice as compliance with Natural Law, the Law of Reason, meaning "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.”

Armed with truth, we can slap Leftists down every time.

15 posted on 04/30/2016 3:35:49 AM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: Robert DeLong

“Those 3 rights trump the 1 right to a trail.”

Happy trails to you!


16 posted on 04/30/2016 3:41:38 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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To: Rapscallion

This latest liberal pipedream-—to place violent killers on an equal footing w/ law-abiding citizens-—showcases the liberal mindset at its most bizarre.

We need to turn our attention to getting these liberals declared non compes mentis.

Locking up cockamamie liberals seems to be more rational than incarcerating murderers, felons and child molesters.


17 posted on 04/30/2016 3:41:56 AM PDT by Liz (SAFE PLACE? A liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing can penetrate it.)
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This is in line with the liberals's view of crime. This is a discussion I have had with an old friend who is a total and hopeless liberal and who is presently a professor at UF. Herewith an extremely abbreviated version of his reasoning:

Philosophically a criminal is not responsible for his actions because society caused him to be a criminal and his acts are irrational i.e. he can't help it. One who defends himself from the criminal is a rational actor because it is rational to not want to be robbed, hurt, or killed. Thus self defense is a considered rational act and is deliberate inflicted harm to the assailant making it the greater or the only crime.

18 posted on 04/30/2016 3:44:40 AM PDT by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali sono feccia.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This has to be satire...right?


19 posted on 04/30/2016 3:45:45 AM PDT by rrrod (just an old guy with a gun in his pocket.l)
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To: 4rcane
Self defense is racist

Not quite correct, but you're close.

"White people defending themselves against blacks/browns/hispanics/other minorities/special "protected classes" attempting to commit violent crimes against them is racist/a hate crime."

That would be a more accurate view of the current SJW thinking.

20 posted on 04/30/2016 3:47:16 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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